O/T Artemis II - is this just

[Spuddy Speight]

moonshine or bullshine?
"Fully crewed rocket will head to moon from Florida ? first time since 1972 that humans will have left lower Earth orbit.
The launch of Artemis II, scheduled for 6.24pm ET, Wednesday, 1st April 2026 if weather and any late technical gremlins grant their consent."

Gremlins might have some input into the planned mission, methinks.

Another Capricorn One escapade perhaps?
But why do NASA, Jeff Bezos and Elon Musk continue with this, in my opinion, nonsensical, absurd fantasy?

I've never been convinced that humankind is able to travel into the area known as "space" or "outer space".
Moonshine or bullshine?
Please tell me I'm wrong.

[Beaufighter]

If you’ve never been convinced that space travel exists then it’s a pointless discussion to start. You can’t educate pork. The moon hoax crowd constantly propose “evidence” that is laughably stupid. You either see it for what it is or you don’t.

[Spuddy Speight]

If you’ve never been convinced that space travel exists then it’s a pointless discussion to start. You can’t educate pork. The moon hoax crowd constantly propose “evidence” that is laughably stupid. You either see it for what it is or you don’t.

There's "pork" and there are "porkie pies".
What about the Van Allen radiation belts which reportedly encircle planet Earth? Much radiation in said belts.
"They pose significant radiation risks to both satellites and astronauts".
I agree that anyone contemplating travelling anywhere near Van Allen radiation belts would be stupid and would definitely not die laughing.

[CAMiller]

There's "pork" and there are "porkie pies".
What about the Van Allen radiation belts which reportedly encircle planet Earth? Much radiation in said belts.
"They pose significant radiation risks to both satellites and astronauts".
I agree that anyone contemplating travelling anywhere near Van Allen radiation belts would be stupid and would definitely not die laughing.

Just out of interest, should it happen tonight as planned in plain sight of thousands of eye witnesses, where do you think that equipment and those 4 people will be the next 11 days? Shopping in Primark?

[Spuddy Speight]

Just out of interest, should it happen tonight as planned in plain sight of thousands of eye witnesses, where do you think that equipment and those 4 people will be the next 11 days? Shopping in Primark?

Will the four astronauts be seen entering the spaceship in plain sight?
If anyone believes that four people will leave planet Earth in a spaceship this evening there are things to consider.
The spaceship must reach a speed of up to
25,020 mph to escape Earth's gravitational influence.
Aerospace scientists estimate the maximum hypothetically survivable speed for humans is around 15,345 mph.
All that is hypothetical and I believe no one living has travelled at those speeds.

They'll be heading for Walmart to get the beers in.
10 days is a long time to lay low.

[John2]

Will the four astronauts be seen entering the spaceship in plain sight?
If anyone believes that four people will leave planet Earth in a spaceship this evening there are things to consider.
The spaceship must reach a speed of up to
25,020 mph to escape Earth's gravitational influence.
Aerospace scientists estimate the maximum hypothetically survivable speed for humans is around 15,345 mph.
All that is hypothetical and I believe no one living has travelled at those speeds.

They'll be heading for Walmart to get the beers in.
10 days is a long time to lay low.

Space programs spanning decades, involving hundreds of thousands of people from every corner of the planet - including nations that can barely agree on what day it is - all somehow manage to accept the basic reality of space exploration.

And yet, we’re supposed to believe they’re all in on the same lie.

What exactly is the incentive for dozens of rival countries, across multiple generations, to coordinate a hoax of cosmic proportions? There isn’t one. That’s what makes this particular conspiracy theory so uniquely daft.

Honestly, the more I think about it, the more I suspect the real conspiracy is that this nonsense exists purely to make every other conspiracy theory look slightly less ridiculous by comparison.

There’s a fascinating juxtaposition between the greatest achievements of humanity and the lowest intellectual reasoning our species can muster.

[John2]

Aerospace scientists estimate the maximum hypothetically survivable speed for humans is around 15,345 mph.

Just for fun, can you tell me who are these "Aerospace scientists" and where you got that figure from?

[sota]

Looking forward to this and we might see it going up from our garden.
We?ve seen a few launches in the past (including Discovery) even from 130 miles away and felt the house shake from sonic booms on re entry too.
All great stuff

[Spuddy Speight]

Space programs spanning decades, involving hundreds of thousands of people from every corner of the planet - including nations that can barely agree on what day it is - all somehow manage to accept the basic reality of space exploration.

And yet, we’re supposed to believe they’re all in on the same lie.

What exactly is the incentive for dozens of rival countries, across multiple generations, to coordinate a hoax of cosmic proportions? There isn’t one. That’s what makes this particular conspiracy theory so uniquely daft.

Honestly, the more I think about it, the more I suspect the real conspiracy is that this nonsense exists purely to make every other conspiracy theory look slightly less ridiculous by comparison.

There’s a fascinating juxtaposition between the greatest achievements of humanity and the lowest intellectual reasoning our species can muster.

"Space programs spanning decades, involving hundreds of thousands of people from every corner of the planet - including nations that can barely agree on what day it is - all somehow manage to accept the basic reality of space exploration."

But are there "hundreds of thousands of people from every corner of the planet" involved in "space programs spanning decades''? Really?
What you see is a fantasy creation of many people sat at monitors in a room called "ground control". So there aren't many people involved in the reported "space missions".

So, while we await the launch of Artemis II there's a fun fact apart from AI being ***** to their pet project.....
"NASA is a major purchaser of helium, historically acting as one of the largest consumers in the United States to support its space launch and research programs. NASA requires significant quantities of both liquid and gaseous helium".
Satellites are suspended from helium balloons. They do not reach space as we are led to believe.

[Spuddy Speight]

Looking forward to this and we might see it going up from our garden.
We?ve seen a few launches in the past (including Discovery) even from 130 miles away and felt the house shake from sonic booms on re entry too.
All great stuff

"These booms are common with reusable boosters and capsules that do not fully burn up in the atmosphere, unlike capsules that incinerate."
Not much fun for astronauts if they occupy those capsules incinerating on re-entry.

[Beaufighter]

There's "pork" and there are "porkie pies".
What about the Van Allen radiation belts which reportedly encircle planet Earth? Much radiation in said belts.
"They pose significant radiation risks to both satellites and astronauts".
I agree that anyone contemplating travelling anywhere near Van Allen radiation belts would be stupid and would definitely not die laughing.

Exactly my point. How did I know you’d come back with this. Does the fact that James van Allen himself said the idea that radiation in the belts made human space travel impossible was poppycock mean nothing to you? The man who they are named after knows less than some conspiracy nobody who didn’t understand the science? How about the flag? or no stars on the photos?

Like I said, you either recognise the infantile nonsense for what it is or you don’t. You clearly don’t.

[Townerslovechild]

Monkeys chucking rocks at the moon......

[Spuddy Speight]

Exactly my point. Carry on porky

And your point is?

[Spuddy Speight]

Launch time for Artemis II is 23.24 Hours BST give or take....

[SdnMiller]

How do we know that the "person" behind this post is actually a real person at all. I can see you, feel you, hear you; for all I know it could be an AI robot writing this thread to put the conspiracy in someone's head.

In fact how do you know you weren't born this morning. All those memories that tie us to the past could be implanted by a superior race. There nothing truly definitive to say they actually happened, as you can't go back yourself and see them again,

Hell you could be asleep right now dreaming, in a constant state of realising your in a dream and then waking up over and over again every morning anew. Do the people who you see in your dreams know they're in a dream?

Really it's just a choice to believe, because truly nothing could be real. I choose to believe that Artemis and Human space travel is real, in the same way I believe Rotherham can stay up this year, if you don't believe then what is the point

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