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  • #31
    Was there last night. Clark can't do much with the squad he's been left with. I'd give him the managers job for next season. 2nd half better but like he said after he's limited to how many minutes he can give the likes of Hall & Yearwood building them up after their injuries. Baptist we'll miss him next season along with Gore but others we won't.

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    • #32
      Clark already looks depressed - of another job comes along he?s likely to go.

      Why would he stay - clubs in free fall

      From where we were with Warney to this is obscene.

      Board should be ashamed !

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      • #33
        Originally posted by Stansmate View Post
        Clark already looks depressed - of another job comes along he?s likely to go.

        Why would he stay - clubs in free fall

        From where we were with Warney to this is obscene.

        Board should be ashamed !
        You're right Stan,Lee has already identified there are problems at the club that need sorting.TS has had no intention of investing to solve these problems over the years, so unless Phil can find us a buyer and run this club properly, we will stagnate even further.I understand there was a protest against the Board by not attending the last two matches.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by Stansmate View Post
          Clark already looks depressed - of another job comes along he?s likely to go.

          Why would he stay - clubs in free fall

          From where we were with Warney to this is obscene.

          Board should be ashamed !
          About time people recognised it. Utter disgrace.

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          • #35
            Intrigued to know where Steve McClaren and Paul Simpson fit into the scenario.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by Timbertop View Post
              Intrigued to know where Steve McClaren and Paul Simpson fit into the scenario.
              I would not habe thought they would!!

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              • #37
                If the club were banking on a sudden turn of results they were well mistaken, and we are still awaiting any news of prices for next year,
                probably linked to the former and now reviewing what they think they can get away with…..and or should that inc clark as manager?

                I don’t think the answer to either of those things will be anytime soon.

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                • #38
                  Are we to hear the often said, we are sifting through many of the high quality applicants?

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                  • #39
                    I?d like us not only to give Lee Clark a 3 year contract but I?d like him to given the full 3 years even if he doesn?t get us promoted.
                    We need a total rebuild of the squad, the culture and the DNA of the coaching and playing staff.
                    These things take time, stability and structure.
                    Swapping and changing helps no one.

                    Need to stop worrying about investment. Chelsea have invested over a billion in players in the last three years but just paid up a manager after 3 months.


                    Again.

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Scum-Triumphant View Post
                      I?d like us not only to give Lee Clark a 3 year contract but I?d like him to given the full 3 years even if he doesn?t get us promoted.
                      We need a total rebuild of the squad, the culture and the DNA of the coaching and playing staff.
                      These things take time, stability and structure.
                      Swapping and changing helps no one.

                      Need to stop worrying about investment. Chelsea have invested over a billion in players in the last three years but just paid up a manager after 3 months.


                      Again.
                      Nice thought, but the fans would never be happy unless failing to get promoted meant a play-off loss. The verdict on Hamshaw was eventually pretty unanimous, but there were very vocal elements pulling him down in the first few weeks of this season. The only way you might see a bit more patience is if there are visible signs that the wider club is part of a shift in approach, and even then it's going to attract negativity from some quarters.

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                      • #41
                        And just what do you think makes clark any better or worse than hamshaw? Or any other previous managers?
                        You talk of whole club culture, etc, we all agree on that….yet one man comes in and has to suffer no money, and fight against the “culture” talked of. Minimal everything now.
                        It is events previously which end up in this manager and the previous 3 managers, ham, evans, rich, staying in office for 5 mins.

                        And i’ll tell you why, because the board sacked each too early to find out, due to non instant results…”we” all thought the squad was wrong, this was wrong, that, the other.

                        You want a culture change, you want long term, yet all the managers after warne had people on their backs when the going went a bit tough.

                        We never really saw how good or bad things could really be because ham or richardson or taylor or evans did not get he 3 years.
                        It isn’t going to happen, not with this “culture” and board.

                        The common denominator to judge evans, hamshaw, clark by is the players and how we came to have such lame ducks, and square pegs.

                        Because it is going to happen again!

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by Old_time_miller View Post
                          And just what do you think makes clark any better or worse than hamshaw? Or any other previous managers?
                          You talk of whole club culture, etc, we all agree on that….yet one man comes in and has to suffer no money, and fight against the “culture” talked of. Minimal everything now.
                          It is events previously which end up in this manager and the previous 3 managers, ham, evans, rich, staying in office for 5 mins.

                          And i’ll tell you why, because the board sacked each too early to find out, due to non instant results…”we” all thought the squad was wrong, this was wrong, that, the other.

                          You want a culture change, you want long term, yet all the managers after warne had people on their backs when the going went a bit tough.

                          We never really saw how good or bad things could really be because ham or richardson or taylor or evans did not get he 3 years.
                          It isn’t going to happen, not with this “culture” and board.

                          The common denominator to judge evans, hamshaw, clark by is the players and how we came to have such lame ducks, and square pegs.

                          Because it is going to happen again!
                          Richardson is the real mystery. His tenure against that of Warne was very similar. Inherited a mess, took over around the same time in the season, didn't turn anything around at Championship level, results were a sea of defeats, relegated early (and almost the same date), but Warne was rewarded with a rolling contract and Richardson was ousted the minute Evans' latest project had failed.

                          If patience were ever needed, April 2024 was the time.

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by UlleyMiller View Post
                            Richardson is the real mystery. His tenure against that of Warne was very similar. Inherited a mess, took over around the same time in the season, didn't turn anything around at Championship level, results were a sea of defeats, relegated early (and almost the same date), but Warne was rewarded with a rolling contract and Richardson was ousted the minute Evans' latest project had failed.

                            If patience were ever needed, April 2024 was the time.
                            That's because fans don't have patience, to allow things to happen ,all you get is 2 or 3 mangers players in one squad , that don't work ,, people wanted Richardson out , Taylor out , Even warne out ,and this is the situation you get

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by DonPageFanClub View Post
                              That's because fans don't have patience, to allow things to happen ,all you get is 2 or 3 mangers players in one squad , that don't work ,, people wanted Richardson out , Taylor out , Even warne out ,and this is the situation you get
                              Nothing to do with fans, it’s T/S that’s got no patience that why he brings in Evans the quick fix fitter, Evans does not build teams to last more than a season & when that doesn’t work he spends more money.Evans spoke about how well he did getting Dawson to sign for us when Wednesdays want him to sign a new contract & bigger clubs than us wanted him, 7k a week that why he came to us.

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                              • #45
                                There were people that wanted Warne out for swapping dug outs while we were top half of the championship.
                                They got what they wanted. Along with 4th division football and 2-3k home crowds.

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