Still no manager

[the_idiotb_stardson]

I reckon they got rid of Warrington to free up some cash for a new manager, because we weren't offering enough.


The," you are an ostrich" rumour is doing the rounds again

[Old_time_miller]

Working under him IS the problem.
Lets look at what he has said that actually matters and the scant events.

How long it takes, is as long as it takes.
He is here as long as they can stand each other (stewart).
Going to have a competitive budget.
Highest quality of recruitment so important.
His preferred head coach was that long ago I cannot remember his name…he stayed put in USA.
Second choice, Burchnall, no thanks again.
Sadler, he has not said anything about him. Hint.
Neither has anyone else, someone dreaming perhaps?
Warrington. Not said anything about him either. A bloke who took Vic under his wing and took him to where he is.
We really must be bringing in superman as a replacement.

Players? Well, we really do not need any more till…..? Nor medical, nor….

Suddenly more concerned about what he is not saying TBH. And what he has said, done, cause perhaps, is frightening, what he does not and does not do could turn out to be terrifying.

Get shut fast, before it gets worse. Empty words and actions will not fill a squad, nor staff. And if I hear the phrase, the ex England manger one more time…..

I get the idea that others may have ideas which will work in L2 and our man at the top will want grander ones.

The pool suggested that he is fishing in must be a very small one. And someone may have peed in it…

[Old_time_miller]

14 days to pre season return.

[Lolmorgan]

Working under him IS the problem.
Lets look at what he has said that actually matters and the scant events.

How long it takes, is as long as it takes.
He is here as long as they can stand each other (stewart).
Going to have a competitive budget.
Highest quality of recruitment so important.
His preferred head coach was that long ago I cannot remember his name…he stayed put in USA.
Second choice, Burchnall, no thanks again.
Sadler, he has not said anything about him. Hint.
Neither has anyone else, someone dreaming perhaps?
Warrington. Not said anything about him either. A bloke who took Vic under his wing and took him to where he is.
We really must be bringing in superman as a replacement.

Players? Well, we really do not need any more till…..? Nor medical, nor….

Suddenly more concerned about what he is not saying TBH. And what he has said, done, cause perhaps, is frightening, what he does not and does not do could turn out to be terrifying.

Get shut fast, before it gets worse. Empty words and actions will not fill a squad, nor staff. And if I hear the phrase, the ex England manger one more time…..

I get the idea that others may have ideas which will work in L2 and our man at the top will want grander ones.

The pool suggested that he is fishing in must be a very small one. And someone may have peed in it…

Failed Ex England Manager you mean.��

[MillerBill]

We all know who is to blame.While the "elephant is still in the room" we implode.

[Stansmate]

They should both be embarrassed by the way they have treated fans with all the bull sheeeite since the season ended !

How must the few players we still have be feeling ??

Getting a team together to really compete so close to new season may we’ll see bottom of lg 2 for some time.

Really stinks

[Timbertop]

Richard Wood is waiting for the call !!!

[MillerBill]

They should both be embarrassed by the way they have treated fans with all the bull sheeeite since the season ended !

How must the few players we still have be feeling ??

Getting a team together to really compete so close to new season may we’ll see bottom of lg 2 for some time.

Really stinks

Like it says on another post "Does he really care?".I think we all know the answer to that.

[CAMiller]

We all know who is to blame.While the "elephant is still in the room" we implode.

It could get very messy though if the elephant in the room implodes

[Heliosphan78]

Working under him IS the problem.
Lets look at what he has said that actually matters and the scant events.

... ... ...

The pool suggested that he is fishing in must be a very small one. And someone may have peed in it…

You say he's the problem like it's a FACT. So what are you basing that on, other than your own negative vibes?

Paul Simpson is 60 years old next month. He's got an easy job coaching kids in a sunnier climate than here and no doubt enjoying a decent lifestyle. At his time of life, would you swap that for the rebuild job we need? Ian Burchnall turned us down for financial reasons. So on the face of it, nothing to do with McClaren.

All we need is a coach. Someone who shares McClaren's footballing philosophy and ideas around how we should play. The fact we haven't got someone in yet, doesn't mean no one wants the job. There are plenty of coaches out there happy to work as a 'number 2' we just need the right man.

The fact is, you don't like McClaren so you will absolutely seize upon anything that portrays him or the club in a bad light - because that's what you do.

[zouch]

I get the feeling that there is change of mind set at RUFC even if we aren’t yet seeing the outcome from this. And us footy fans are never the most patient, rational of folks.
Recruitment is always risky even more so when there is no vision or strategy. We have that now having appointed an ex prem league and England manager. So I cant get my head around the negativity regarding McLaren. This is a real coupe and statement of intent.

Having recruited many C Suite execs I know that recruitment is the most important decision SM can make to deliver on this vision for Rotherham United. Better to wait for the right person than make a rash decision. So, in that regard I’m not worried, especially as SM is filling the role.

A few things I have learnt

Taking a punt on a young and up and coming manager is high risk, high reward. If it pays off it pays off big time and sometimes you have to be patient, something that is not afforded to football managers. So unless we have done some extensive research on an individual, appointing from this category smack of decision on a budget rather than a sense of confidence and belief. It could be either. But why would SM put his name and reputation to a project when he cant get the person to deliver on his plans.

The second thing is beware of the 1st time manager who is successful. It is often, if not nearly always because of other factors. For example, I don’t get the clamour for Alex Revell, he inherited a stable, well managed team. He has also done very well and credit to him. If he were to repeat the success in another club then I will suggest we have a manager on our hands, until then let some other team take the risk.
Less risky and my preferred option is the manager that has been successful more than once and in different circumstances. These are more expensive and they will need to see RUFC as a step up from where they are, likely to be non-league and have expended the resources and capability of the club.

I’m keen to see who we appoint but remain a happy clappy optimist.

[Heliosphan78]

I get the feeling that there is change of mind set at RUFC even if we aren’t yet seeing the outcome from this. And us footy fans are never the most patient, rational of folks.
Recruitment is always risky even more so when there is no vision or strategy. We have that now having appointed an ex prem league and England manager. So I cant get my head around the negativity regarding McLaren. This is a real coupe and statement of intent.

Having recruited many C Suite execs I know that recruitment is the most important decision SM can make to deliver on this vision for Rotherham United. Better to wait for the right person than make a rash decision. So, in that regard I’m not worried, especially as SM is filling the role.

A few things I have learnt

Taking a punt on a young and up and coming manager is high risk, high reward. If it pays off it pays off big time and sometimes you have to be patient, something that is not afforded to football managers. So unless we have done some extensive research on an individual, appointing from this category smack of decision on a budget rather than a sense of confidence and belief. It could be either. But why would SM put his name and reputation to a project when he cant get the person to deliver on his plans.

The second thing is beware of the 1st time manager who is successful. It is often, if not nearly always because of other factors. For example, I don’t get the clamour for Alex Revell, he inherited a stable, well managed team. He has also done very well and credit to him. If he were to repeat the success in another club then I will suggest we have a manager on our hands, until then let some other team take the risk.
Less risky and my preferred option is the manager that has been successful more than once and in different circumstances. These are more expensive and they will need to see RUFC as a step up from where they are, likely to be non-league and have expended the resources and capability of the club.

I’m keen to see who we appoint but remain a happy clappy optimist.

Excellent post, very well said.

[shshsh22]

You say he's the problem like it's a FACT. So what are you basing that on, other than your own negative vibes?

Paul Simpson is 60 years old next month. He's got an easy job coaching kids in a sunnier climate than here and no doubt enjoying a decent lifestyle. At his time of life, would you swap that for the rebuild job we need? Ian Burchnall turned us down for financial reasons. So on the face of it, nothing to do with McClaren.

All we need is a coach. Someone who shares McClaren's footballing philosophy and ideas around how we should play. The fact we haven't got someone in yet, doesn't mean no one wants the job. There are plenty of coaches out there happy to work as a 'number 2' we just need the right man.

The fact is, you don't like McClaren so you will absolutely seize upon anything that portrays him or the club in a bad light - because that's what you do.

Hypocrisy much.What kind of job do you think SM had managing Jamaica.Someone asked me earlier on in this thread,would i complain if we appointed Pep as manager.Yes i would,because he should be unattainable for RUFC,same as SM.
Ask yourself this.Why would a financially secure man,in his mid sixties,whohas managed at international level,come here,with all our problems.People go on about his contacts.He hasnt managed at club level for decades,and not in the lower leagues.I suppose he might know an ex player who has a son playing for Macclesfield u15s.
I have no dislike for SM,but he isnt a good fit for this club,in this league,just a waste of a wage.

[Heliosphan78]

Hypocrisy much.What kind of job do you think SM had managing Jamaica.

No hypocrisy at all. McClaren resigned from his role with Jamaica over 6 months ago. We didn't exactly poach him. Whereas that's exactly what we would have done in the case of Paul Simpson.

Someone asked me earlier on in this thread,would i complain if we appointed Pep as manager.Yes i would,because he should be unattainable for RUFC,same as SM.

You say below that he's financially secure, so maybe SM became available to RUFC for that very reason.

But anyway, why aim high when you can aim low instead. Some fans accuse the club of lacking ambition. Fans have the same mindset if you're anything to go on.

Ask yourself this.Why would a financially secure man,in his mid sixties,whohas managed at international level,come here,with all our problems.

I don't know, do you know something about his character that we all don't? Maybe he's been looking for this kind of role. Maybe he sees it as a challenge. Maybe the nature of the contract suits him. Maybe it also suits him because he doesn't live too far away.

What do you think?

People go on about his contacts.He hasnt managed at club level for decades,and not in the lower leagues

This again? FFS.

Well lucky for us that he's the Head Of Football and not the manager. We're most likely getting a Head Coach who does have experience of lower league football.

I have no dislike for SM,but he isnt a good fit for this club,in this league,just a waste of a wage.

Are you saying it's a waste of a wage because it's Steve McClaren or because you don't think we need a Head Of Football?

[shshsh22]

No hypocrisy at all. McClaren resigned from his role with Jamaica over 6 months ago. We didn't exactly poach him. Whereas that's exactly what we would have done in the case of Paul Simpson.



You say below that he's financially secure, so maybe SM became available to RUFC for that very reason.

But anyway, why aim high when you can aim low instead. Some fans accuse the club of lacking ambition. Fans have the same mindset if you're anything to go on.



I don't know, do you know something about his character that we all don't? Maybe he's been looking for this kind of role. Maybe he sees it as a challenge. Maybe the nature of the contract suits him. Maybe it also suits him because he doesn't live too far away.

What do you think?



This again? FFS.

Well lucky for us that he's the Head Of Football and not the manager. We're most likely getting a Head Coach who does have experience of lower league football.



Are you saying it's a waste of a wage because it's Steve McClaren or because you don't think we need a Head Of Football?

The hypocrisy was refering to simpson having a easy job in sunnier climes, as you put it,and asking why would he leave.Ditto SM.
On page 4 i stated the reason why he has come here,and you disagreed,now youre saying 1 reason is because its local,which is what i said.
You also stated we should be happy TS wont be making the decisionsbecause of his poor record.Dont you see this was another.But now you say this new manager will be making the decisions,which is it.
As i said i have nothing against SM,but his self admitted reasons for coming here,dont align with the type of person the club needs.If you think he is here for the challenge,you are deluded.
We need a positive,pro active,charasmatic and energetic individual to lead the club forward.SM is not that person.