O/T Covid Vaccine mRNA

[KerrAvon]

He is your leader because he’s the prime minister of the uk. Unless you don’t live or pay taxes in the uk then he’s your prime minister and the prime minister is the leader.

You know where the term conspiracy theory comes from don’t?

Some say they are the truth tellers.

I am intelligent enough to understand what’s happened to me and is happening to others. My neighbours mother was diagnosed with cancer in late December and she died Sunday night. Some would say that it was a turbo cancer but that’s a conspiracy!

We will have to agree to differ upon whether Sunak is my leader. A leader leads whereas Sunak is in thrall to the need to please the likes of the Daily Mail and GBN and to the need to throw red meat to the right of his party to keep them from deposing him. Just my opinion.

I know where the term ‘conspiracy theory’ came from and I also know the conspiracy theory about its origin. Which do you have in mind?

I taken aboard what you have said about your heath problems. I won’t say that I understand their impact upon you, because how could I possibly do that? I can imagine though and, wholly inadequate as it seems, you have my deepest sympathy.

I don’t question your belief that your ill health was caused by the covid vaccine, just as I wouldn’t question the belief of the bloke who put the boot in on Sunak on GBN. As I mentioned towards the start of this thread, I believe that I was unlucky enough to have been rendered gravely ill by a Hep B vaccination in 1997.

The point though is that neither your belief, that of the bloke on GBN or my belief are proof of a link to the vaccinations that we had.

I have had five Pfizer jabs with no harmful effects other than temporary soreness at the injection site, but nobody sensible would suggest that is proof that they are safe, because a sample size of one would clearly be inadequate to do that. Billions of such jabs have been administered world-wide, however, and the fact is is that there is no evidence that they are responsible for widespread harm.

I am sorry to hear about your neighbour’s mother, but a short period between diagnosis and death is not evidence of a ‘turbo’ cancer and certainly not evidence of a link to any vaccine that she might have taken.

People became ill before the covid vaccines. And people died before the covid vaccines.

[Eternal Optimist]

...And people died before the covid vaccines.

But not at the current rate.

I cannot fault your current position. Had I been poisoned 5 times I'm certain I too would be in complete denial, but I wish you well regardless.

[frogmiller]

Is this true? It shows the Channel 4 news icon.

Only over 75s will be eligible to get a free Covid 19 jab free and the rest will be able to buy them 😮

https://x.com/karma44921039/status/1757682040953053203?s=42&t=V3MA7CRmlcvxGrPcIOixGQ

[frogmiller]

Peer reviewed science

https://x.com/thefreds/status/1758763688482181370?s=42&t=V3MA7CRmlcvxGrPcIOixGQ

[ragingpup]

Peer reviewed science

https://x.com/thefreds/status/175876...lcvxGrPcIOixGQ

Or perhaps some fringe ideas are just bonkers and don't gain peer credibility because of said bonkersnessesness?

[frogmiller]

Or perhaps some fringe ideas are just bonkers and don't gain peer credibility because of said bonkersnessesness?

Some but not all.

[ragingpup]

Some but not all.

I guess the 'not all' ones, coincidentally, are the ones you believe in? 😊

[frogmiller]

I guess the 'not all' ones, coincidentally, are the ones you believe in? 😊

I’ve not seen all them yet

[frogmiller]

Please remember that when you respond to my posts that it’s not me doing the research nor do I appear in the videos.

It’s food for thought and it may just be against what the governments of the world want you to think.


‘What do you think about this report ?

https://x.com/vigilantfox/status/1758965570303615036?s=42&t=V3MA7CRmlcvxGrPcIOixGQ

[Eternal Optimist]

...What do you think about this report ?

https://x.com/vigilantfox/status/175...lcvxGrPcIOixGQ

I see the old 1 in 800 figure has cropped up again.

[crashbang]

I think,after careful consideration.
It is a load of bollox.

[frogmiller]

I think,after careful consideration.
It is a load of bollox.

Crash, if the chances of kids getting sick and being hospitalised with Covid were so low then why were they encouraged to have a vaccine that doesn’t stop transmission ?

[KerrAvon]

Peer reviewed science

https://x.com/thefreds/status/175876...lcvxGrPcIOixGQ

So here we have two failed popstars (although I would imagine that they made a bob or two out of ‘I’m too s3xy’ and probably still get the odd gig at the likes of Pontins) pushing a video from some unnamed gent who is railing against peer reviewed science (i.e. science that has been assessed by independent scientists and deemed to have the appearance of being sound).

What is the alternative to peer reviewed science? Made up crap that can be posted on Twitter? That certainly appears to be the go-to for anti-vaxers.

[KerrAvon]

Please remember that when you respond to my posts that it’s not me doing the research nor do I appear in the videos.

It’s food for thought and it may just be against what the governments of the world want you to think.


‘What do you think about this report ?

https://x.com/vigilantfox/status/175...lcvxGrPcIOixGQ

The report from the disgraced physicist and climate change denier?

The usual technique adopted when preparing such reports (if made up data is not used) is to be very selective in the choice of data that is used and to present it out of context. It would take ages to go through all of the video and check its contents (I’ll leave that to the peer review), but I can give you two quick examples of how that has been done here.

Two of the countries that feature on the video are Australia and New Zealand. As the video shows, neither of those countries showed any excess mortality in the immediate aftermath of the pandemic being declared. What the video fails to mention, however, is that both of those countries effectively closed their borders at that time and avoided any immediate widespread outbreak of Covid 19. They then opened their borders after the vaccine roll out and the disease spread widely bringing with it excess mortality, as you would expect.

The second point to note is that New Zealand has not experienced the post-covid excess death phenomenon, unlike countries such as the UK that were unsuccessful in avoiding a high level of circulation of Covid19 in an unvaccinated population. Surely that is relevant to the notion that it is the vaccines that are causing deaths?

Wonder why they don’t mention those things... It’s almost as though the maker of the video is pursuing an agenda and isn’t that interested in any sort of balanced view.

[KerrAvon]

Crash, if the chances of kids getting sick and being hospitalised with Covid were so low then why were they encouraged to have a vaccine that doesn’t stop transmission ?

As we have discussed, it is beyond doubt that the vaccines reduce transmission. As for the notion that the chances of kids getting sick and being hospitalised with Covid were so low, what do you consider to be an acceptable number? How many deaths or long-term illness amongst children as a consequence of Covid infection do you consider to be acceptable?

Why do you think the vaccines were made available children?