O/T Covid Vaccine mRNA

[KerrAvon]

What it says in the write up is

Former FDA vaccines deputy ADMITS that the covid injections high rates of myocarditis - As much as 1 in 5000!

He also admits that people who had covid had better immunity than those who got the injection.

The viedeo is quite ballanced as it does say that the covid vaccine does give added immunity to covid but not as much as being infected by covid itself. He goes on to say that there are cases of heart problems caused in mainly young men that can't be linked with pubity and that it also effects other ages too.

He was asked at the end of the video if he had taken the booster. Now don't forget that he was on the team responsible for giving the go ahead for Vaccines use. He said that he hadn't taken the booster!!!

If you read it I'm sure your legal mind can pick bones out of what I've said through deflection or by denouncing his as he's now retired!

I've already addressed the points in the write up.

The immunity from infection is slightly different, but I don't recognise 'better'. I've seen similar claims in the past that are based on a misunderstanding (deliberate or otherwise) of the science.

The incidence of myocarditis is greater following infection than vaccination and, as I've mentioned, the infection fatality rate for covid was around 1.4% when I last looked.

How does the tweet help? Are you seriously of the view that infection is a better alternative to vaccination? Think 1.4% before you answer that (or don't answer as per usual).

[Eternal Optimist]

Of course they stopped the spread of covid.

Do you have faith in some weird and wacky theory that could explain how they wouldn't?

If they stopped the spread of Covid, how come there were 19,801,296 cases recorded over the same period?

[frogmiller]

If they stopped the spread of Covid, how come there were 19,801,296 cases recorded over the same period?

He’ll die in his own knowledge that the vaccines stop transmission regardless who says and any context.

He’s clearly now on a wind up.

[KerrAvon]

If they stopped the spread of Covid, how come there were 19,801,296 cases recorded over the same period?

Er, because there was still limited contact?

I haven't looked recently, but shop and public transport workers were particularly hard hit by the early waves of covid. That reflects the nature of their work, which involved relatively high levels of contact (but may also reflect them generally being relatively low paid, which can be a factor in poor general health).

But if you actually believe that reducing contact between people would not reduce the spread of a primarily airborne infection, how do you explain the plateauing and then fall of numbers during lockdown and then their rise when restrictions were lifted?

Or are you a germ theory denier?

[KerrAvon]

He’ll die in his own knowledge that the vaccines stop transmission regardless who says and any context.

He’s clearly now on a wind up.

Do keep up, Frog. We're talking lockdowns at the mo.

[Eternal Optimist]

...He’s clearly now on a wind up.

I think you're right.

I said a while back it's beginning to look like someone on here has a vested interest.

[frogmiller]

Do keep up, Frog. We're talking lockdowns at the mo.

Patronising git!

I guess that you were probably in complete favour with a pair of binoculars, a note pad and a direct line to the police station.

You probably wore a mask and kept 2m distance even though you couldn't transmit Covid or catch it because of your vaccines. Just like everyone else.

The awakening of the bull shine has come at different times for different people. Mine as I've stated came when I fell seriously ill not long after my second jab.

The lock downs over here were restricted to those that could provide a pass on their phones. Ill people who didn't have a pass were refused entry to the hospitals, and shopping centre!

We were restricted from going out for a walk in the fresh air whilst politions were having parties!

They were filmed taking their masks off when the cameras weren't on them!

I have kept up but I am sure that you haven't!

[Eternal Optimist]

Patronising git!

I guess that you were probably in complete favour with a pair of binoculars, a note pad and a direct line to the police station.

You probably wore a mask and kept 2m distance even though you couldn't transmit Covid or catch it because of your vaccines. Just like everyone else.

The awakening of the bull shine has come at different times for different people. Mine as I've stated came when I fell seriously ill not long after my second jab.

The lock downs over here were restricted to those that could provide a pass on their phones. Ill people who didn't have a pass were refused entry to the hospitals, and shopping centre!

We were restricted from going out for a walk in the fresh air whilst politions were having parties!

They were filmed taking their masks off when the cameras weren't on them!

I have kept up but I am sure that you haven't!

They will definitely be trying to repeat all the lies and b@llox soon - this time it'll be bird flu. Do not comply!

[KerrAvon]

Patronising git!

I guess that you were probably in complete favour with a pair of binoculars, a note pad and a direct line to the police station.

You probably wore a mask and kept 2m distance even though you couldn't transmit Covid or catch it because of your vaccines. Just like everyone else.

The awakening of the bull shine has come at different times for different people. Mine as I've stated came when I fell seriously ill not long after my second jab.

The lock downs over here were restricted to those that could provide a pass on their phones. Ill people who didn't have a pass were refused entry to the hospitals, and shopping centre!

We were restricted from going out for a walk in the fresh air whilst politions were having parties!

They were filmed taking their masks off when the cameras weren't on them!

I have kept up but I am sure that you haven't!

It's sad that you choose to be rude and a little insulting. I

was deemed an 'essential worker' during the lockdowns, as were the rest of my household, although, in fairness, I at least was able to do much of my work from home.

That politicians partied reflects badly on them, not the people who complied.

But if not lockdowns and not vaccination, how would you have addressed the pandemic? It seems me that you want to criticise without any answers of your own (quite literally on this thread).

No solution was perfect, but allowing a disease with an IFR of 1.4% to rip through the population was a particularly unimpressive one.

[KerrAvon]

They will definitely be trying to repeat all the lies and b@llox soon - this time it'll be bird flu. Do not comply!

The tendency to believe in conspiracy theories has developed for evolutionary reasons. Not complying with measures designed to prevent death is likely to reverse that process over time.

[Eternal Optimist]

...Not complying with measures designed to prevent death is likely to reverse that process over time.

I wouldn't dream of telling you what to do. You can comply all you like if it makes you feel better.

I have not and will not comply with any directive involving the W.H.O, W.E.F., and/or any corrupt globalist organisation which is on a mission to rid the planet of the 'useless eaters' (-Klaus Schwab's words, not mine -).

[KerrAvon]

Ah, so it was a plot to kill us all off?

Not a very successful one given the success of the vaccine programme.

[Eternal Optimist]

Ah, so it was a plot to kill us all off?...

Ask Herr Schwab, not me.

[frogmiller]

It's sad that you choose to be rude and a little insulting. I

was deemed an 'essential worker' during the lockdowns, as were the rest of my household, although, in fairness, I at least was able to do much of my work from home.

That politicians partied reflects badly on them, not the people who complied.

But if not lockdowns and not vaccination, how would you have addressed the pandemic? It seems me that you want to criticise without any answers of your own (quite literally on this thread).

No solution was perfect, but allowing a disease with an IFR of 1.4% to rip through the population was a particularly unimpressive one.

Is rude the same as patronising? Maybe not but still crap!

I have said that I agreed with the vaccines at first and I have said that I saw it as a way of getting mine and my families liberty.
I have also said that I was in favour of the vaccine policy and if you’d care to look through my social media history you’ll be see how critical I was of people that refused to be vaccinated.
My employer at the time was anti vaccination and I was as critical of him as you are of me. He based his on his sons disability which he puts down to vaccine injuries as a boy 20 years ago,
At the same time my children were vaccinated as kids and they had no ill effects from them.

When my heart was beating at 130 per minute he put it down to the vaccine but I told him to do one.

It wasn’t until I started to check things out that I thought there may be something in this. I have also said in this thread that my daughter said that I was looking to find a reason for the problems I’m suffering from and I thought that she may have a point.
The timing and the tests that I have had over the last 4 years highlighted a problem at a certain time that induced my problems.

I am not stupid and you Hani idea of what suffering I have. But I see 2 neurologists, a cardiologist, a gastroenterologist, whatever the guy is that deals with my thyroid on top of having a weekly blood test and a weekly course of blood letting.

Before all of that I was fit and healthy although I’d had my ankle blocked in 2018 but I still worked and built a life in a new village that was suitable for my disability.

There is even more to this story that can confirm my condition of health but you’re not interested.

I understand why the lockdown was enforced!

I don’t believe that the pandemic was caused by someone eating a bat at a wet market.

I believe that the mNRA is an experimental drug that did not go through the normal protocol that most drugs go through.

I believe that the masks were a waste of time but made millions for the friends of politicians

I also believe that my parents lied to me when I was growing up but it was for reasons that I now understand having had kids. These kids I wholeheartedly love as my parents loved me!

But if it’s important for parents to lie to their kids to protect them then why do we not think that governments will lie to us also?
They do but I don’t have to accept that and I’m capable of asking questions. If I’m not happy with the response I’ll look elsewhere for answers.

We as a population have been lied to! Party gate was a sham!

Some of the people working for the government giving health advice have now moved on and are working for the pharmaceutical companies that have made billions from the pandemic.

There are other exposée that are been dealt with by courts. The number of people that died or injured that were not counted in the trials carried out by tha pharmaceutical companies.

Pfizer refused government aid when producing their jab. They are coming under more scrutiny now but because they refused aid they were not forced to give test details.
It’s a bit like Barclays bank and how they got through the crisis.

The whole thing is a con trick and the worst thing is is that intelligent people like you can’t take their blinkers off!

[frogmiller]

I probably won’t read your response just in case it raises your algorithms!