OT Border Control State of Emergency

[frogmiller]

My security business has been approached to put security in at different events such as young girls dancing groups, young girls academy’s.
I have had requests to put in patrols in areas of let’s say areas of concern for local residents.
What’s changed? It’s those white Christian’s in local hotels that’s making business family’s feel nervous.
Of course it’s not white Christians but we get the gist don’t we
Of course these businesses family’s who are concerned are all right wing racists who should hang their heads in shame fancy wanting to protect the women and children. Disgusting.

May I ask who is offering the contracts Yak?

Would the cost be higher or lower than normal policing I.e. football stadiums.

Also a question that is important. Do you employ a diverse ethnicity policy at your company?

I ask this as I know a few French police officers. One of the most shocking things is that the near us is the police national arsenal. It employs a priv?te company for its security.
My friend used yo train them as a police officer.

Also regarding ethnicity, in France you are not allowed to to work in the security sector unless you have been in the country for 6 years.

You will often see security guards with dogs walking round shopping centres as well as armed army personnel during large gatherings.

Like you say it?s not because of the white Christian or catholic population on the whole.

[Yak]

May I ask who is offering the contracts Yak?

Would the cost be higher or lower than normal policing I.e. football stadiums.

Also a question that is important. Do you employ a diverse ethnicity policy at your company?

I ask this as I know a few French police officers. One of the most shocking things is that the near us is the police national arsenal. It employs a priv?te company for its security.
My friend used yo train them as a police officer.

Also regarding ethnicity, in France you are not allowed to to work in the security sector unless you have been in the country for 6 years.

You will often see security guards with dogs walking round shopping centres as well as armed army personnel during large gatherings.

Like you say it?s not because of the white Christian or catholic population on the whole.

A lot of my contracts/ Work is from word of mouth
It’s all private businesses who I don’t think it would be appropriate for me to name them
Small businesses who from word of mouth have been signposted
My company offers close protection for business men and women and a few well known personalities
The work you have mentioned I normally offer depending on the situation for no profit just cover the costs.
I don’t have an ethnicity policy I recruit ex squaddies all British of different faiths, ethnicity.
80% are ex special forces which Is needed for the work we do.

[frogmiller]

A lot of my contracts/ Work is from word of mouth
It’s all private businesses who I don’t think it would be appropriate for me to name them
Small businesses who from word of mouth have been signposted
My company offers close protection for business men and women and a few well known personalities
The work you have mentioned I normally offer depending on the situation for no profit just cover the costs.
I don’t have an ethnicity policy I recruit ex squaddies all British of different faiths, ethnicity.
80% are ex special forces which Is needed for the work we do.

I understand. Good luck

[mygiddypant]

My security business has been approached to put security in at different events such as young girls dancing groups, young girls academy??s.
I have had requests to put in patrols in areas of let??s say areas of concern for local residents.
What??s changed? It??s those white Christian??s in local hotels that??s making business family??s feel nervous.
Of course it??s not white Christians but we get the gist don??t we
Of course these businesses family??s who are concerned are all right wing racists who should hang their heads in shame fancy wanting to protect the women and children. Disgusting.

No one has a problem with concerned parents wanting to protect their children. However, the majority of abuse takes place in the home - parents, siblings, relatives.

And what about the abuse of children in religious settings - church activities, church schools etc? I haven't seen many concerned parents out on the streets protesting about these. But I have seen evidence of abuse having been covered up by church authorities and schools.

Its not as simple as you might want to believe.

[Yak]

No one has a problem with concerned parents wanting to protect their children. However, the majority of abuse takes place in the home - parents, siblings, relatives.

And what about the abuse of children in religious settings - church activities, church schools etc? I haven't seen many concerned parents out on the streets protesting about these. But I have seen evidence of abuse having been covered up by church authorities and schools.

Its not as simple as you might want to believe.

You make a fair point. I was reacting to this thread about border control state of emergency.

The Catholic Church as an example has gotten away with horrendous abuse for years.

I?m not blind to it. Abuse is abuse whoever it?s from.
If a thread comes up in that or any other abuse I?ll comment.

[frogmiller]

No one has a problem with concerned parents wanting to protect their children. However, the majority of abuse takes place in the home - parents, siblings, relatives.

And what about the abuse of children in religious settings - church activities, church schools etc? I haven't seen many concerned parents out on the streets protesting about these. But I have seen evidence of abuse having been covered up by church authorities and schools.

Its not as simple as you might want to believe.

The issues that your raise should also be sorted.

It is a terrible argument that because someone else does it you have no right to tell of another incident and deal with that one.

The figures from the Uk sponsored report earlier this year has highlighted that there is a problem within these hotels.
The easiest way of getting rid of the problem is to take the people out of the hotels. They are illegal immigrants many of whine pose a disproportionate risk to the public.

To say that a choir boy has been abused by a victor is another issue that needs sorting out.

Every single abuse of women and children needs sorting.

[KerrAvon]

The issues that your raise should also be sorted.

It is a terrible argument that because someone else does it you have no right to tell of another incident and deal with that one.

The figures from the Uk sponsored report earlier this year has highlighted that there is a problem within these hotels.
The easiest way of getting rid of the problem is to take the people out of the hotels. They are illegal immigrants many of whine pose a disproportionate risk to the public.

To say that a choir boy has been abused by a victor is another issue that needs sorting out.

Every single abuse of women and children needs sorting.

Which report are you referring to, Frog?

This debate seems to assume that asylum seekers pose a 'disproportionate risk to the public', but I don't recall seeing anything to support that.

[KerrAvon]

Everything that is free to these is paid for by someone who works

Maybe allow asylum seekers to work pending the determination of their asylum application?

[KerrAvon]

Canary Wharf hotel now being used to house illegals
Anyone who doesn?t believe that this is all part of a big plan to destroy our civilisation is deluded.
Let wing trouble causers bussed into Epping by the police is treasonous and all part of a bigger plan.

The Chief Constable of the Es*** force says that the claim that Farage that counter-protestors were bussed by them is cobblers.

Who should we believe? The head of a police force that has had officers injured trying to keep order or Farage, who likes to exploit public dissatisfaction for his political gain?

[Stovicmiller]

The Chief Constable of the Es*** force says that the claim that Farage that counter-protestors were bussed by them is cobblers.

Who should we believe? The head of a police force that has had officers injured trying to keep order or Farage, who likes to exploit public dissatisfaction for his political gain?

The police walked them in even the ones wearing masks then bussed them out.

[Stovicmiller]

That chief Contable is more concerned with hate crimes than solving real crime , supposedly Es*** police have only solved 13 percent of all crime in that county last year. More bothered bout hurry words . Where’s the Oricle when we need him .

[frogmiller]

Which report are you referring to, Frog?

This debate seems to assume that asylum seekers pose a 'disproportionate risk to the public', but I don't recall seeing anything to support that.

You wouldn?t have!

You questioned the laptops and you?ll question the 50% that immigrants get on e-bikes and scooters

[frogmiller]

You wouldn?t have!

You questioned the laptops and you?ll question the 50% that immigrants get on e-bikes and scooters

https://www.msn.com/en-ph/news/other/council-offers-asylum-seekers-50-off-e-bike-and-e-scooter-rentals/ar-AA1JcVE6

[KerrAvon]

The police walked them in even the ones wearing masks then bussed them out.

Given the behaviour of some of the protestors it would make sense for the police to escort the counter-protestors. It's part of their job (and a legal obligation) to facilitate the right to protest whilst taking steps to prevent a breach of the peace.

That falls a bit short of the foolish and inflammatory claim that Farage made though.

[KerrAvon]

https://www.msn.com/en-ph/news/other...ls/ar-AA1JcVE6

That's very interesting, but do you have a link to the report that you referred to?