Anyone going to the march on Saturday

[Eternal Optimist]

In 1993, Mandela and President de Klerk were awarded the Nobel Peace Prize for their work towards abolishing apartheid.

Nevertheless, Mandela played a part in orchestrating civilian deaths - no matter how you dress it up.

As I said, the times they are a-changing.

[animallittle3]

I wouldn't ever say Tommy Robinson is the pillar of society and you could accuse him of many things , much of which he would probably admit to .

The kicker for many people who call him everything from a pig to a dog is that he's called out the Grooming Gangs and the cover up and exposed extreme Islam for what it is .

His opponents of course will concentrate on playing the man and not the ball because assassinating his character is the only way they can play this .

You may agree with me or you may not but Tommy Robinson is one feared individual in certain sections and he's feared because he's right about things that others wish weren't true .

[Stovicmiller]

You should seriously consider your position as a moderator

no answer, didn?t think you would.

[UlleyMiller]

Are you saying that everyone at the march or have the same concerns are the dregs of society?

I said ..."nationalism dressed up as patriotism always seems an effective way to unite the dregs of society".

KFC is an effective way to attract people who love chicken, grease, and salt. Others may find the occasional motivation to visit too.

I'd have little interest in quizzing the less-frequent attendees on their reasons, much like I'd have little interest in discussing my view that it's not extraordinary to think that the combined number of career dole-ites, repeat offenders, and Tommy Titmouse-alikes in the UK would comfortably allow for large crowds of them to be in attendance to see an utter dickhead like SYL.

The Tories failed and spiraled into a corruption ring. Starmer is proving to be damaging to Labour and is failing to connect with the country. The opportunist movements are always noisier when the two major parties are falling short, and the period between elections is historically when public opinion is at its lowest. Sadly, we've allowed politics to become a one-issue-at-a-time farce in recent years, and these parades are part of the fabric now. Hopefully before the next election the two main parties will have a bit of a eureka moment each, and decent people will ask a few questions rather than getting swept up in some of the hysterical sh*te from some of the ghouls involved in this latest round of BS.

[ragingpup]

I wouldn't ever say Tommy Robinson is the pillar of society and you could accuse him of many things , much of which he would probably admit to .

The kicker for many people who call him everything from a pig to a dog is that he's called out the Grooming Gangs and the cover up and exposed extreme Islam for what it is .

His opponents of course will concentrate on playing the man and not the ball because assassinating his character is the only way they can play this .

You may agree with me or you may not but Tommy Robinson is one feared individual in certain sections and he's feared because he's right about things that others wish weren't true .

But what does Robinson and his followers ultimately want to achieve animal? What's the end game for them?

I would agree with frog in so far as many on the march will have differing views on immigration. These will likely range from tolerant of legal immigration as it is filling in skills gaps but not happy with illegal immigration, through to extremes such as deporting all non whites who arrived since the year X (various answers I'm sure).

But what does Robinson want to achieve ultimately?

[KerrAvon]

I wouldn't ever say Tommy Robinson is the pillar of society and you could accuse him of many things , much of which he would probably admit to .

The kicker for many people who call him everything from a pig to a dog is that he's called out the Grooming Gangs and the cover up and exposed extreme Islam for what it is .

His opponents of course will concentrate on playing the man and not the ball because assassinating his character is the only way they can play this .

You may agree with me or you may not but Tommy Robinson is one feared individual in certain sections and he's feared because he's right about things that others wish weren't true .

Who needs to assassinate Robinson's character? He did that himself when he committed the various offences that he has been convicted of. You may be willing to ignore that he is a convicted fraudster and football hooligan because his views accord with yours, but the fact remains that is what he is.

As for playing the man, Robinson has form for that too, save that it was more a case of playing the child:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leeds-57930901

Again, you may be willing to brush that under what would have to be a rather large carpet, but his actions and use of language 'calculated to inflame', had massive consequences for his victim.

He's done very well out of it all though.

[animallittle3]

Who needs to assassinate Robinson's character? He did that himself when he committed the various offences that he has been convicted of. You may be willing to ignore that he is a convicted fraudster and football hooligan because his views accord with yours, but the fact remains that is what he is.

As for playing the man, Robinson has form for that too, save that it was more a case of playing the child:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leeds-57930901

Again, you may be willing to brush that under what would have to be a rather large carpet, but his actions and use of language 'calculated to inflame', had massive consequences for his victim.

He's done very well out of it all though.

I don't believe i have ignored his character Kerr , I know what offences he's committed .

Views that align with mine is an interesting comment , I'm not terribly impressed by Asian men raping vulnerable girls whilst people who are supposed to protect them look the other way , I'm not super cool on extreme Islam either .

You can produce as many rap sheets as you want with Robinson's name on them but it still doesn't make him wrong though does it on Grooming Gangs and extreme Islam .

Interestingly the crimes of George Floyd didn't get much air time by certain sections , possessing drugs , dealing drugs , armed robbery and holding a woman at gunpoint .

[animallittle3]

But what does Robinson and his followers ultimately want to achieve animal? What's the end game for them?

I would agree with frog in so far as many on the march will have differing views on immigration. These will likely range from tolerant of legal immigration as it is filling in skills gaps but not happy with illegal immigration, through to extremes such as deporting all non whites who arrived since the year X (various answers I'm sure).

But what does Robinson want to achieve ultimately?

There are many interviews Robinson has done and all of them are available to watch on YouTube where he goes in to great lengths to explain where he is today , much of it was formed by his early life in Luton .

The rape of his cousin by Asian men , his witnessing of extreme Islam in Luton most of whom ended up getting convicted for terrorism and the way it was handled when young Robinson spoke out about it .

I suppose the end game would be for it not to be ignored again by the authorities because you happen to be a white working class kid with a bit of form .

[SdnMiller]

I said ..."nationalism dressed up as patriotism always seems an effective way to unite the dregs of society".

KFC is an effective way to attract people who love chicken, grease, and salt. Others may find the occasional motivation to visit too.

I'd have little interest in quizzing the less-frequent attendees on their reasons, much like I'd have little interest in discussing my view that it's not extraordinary to think that the combined number of career dole-ites, repeat offenders, and Tommy Titmouse-alikes in the UK would comfortably allow for large crowds of them to be in attendance to see an utter dickhead like SYL.

The Tories failed and spiraled into a corruption ring. Starmer is proving to be damaging to Labour and is failing to connect with the country. The opportunist movements are always noisier when the two major parties are falling short, and the period between elections is historically when public opinion is at its lowest. Sadly, we've allowed politics to become a one-issue-at-a-time farce in recent years, and these parades are part of the fabric now. Hopefully before the next election the two main parties will have a bit of a eureka moment each, and decent people will ask a few questions rather than getting swept up in some of the hysterical sh*te from some of the ghouls involved in this latest round of BS.

The most reasonable take so far

[ragingpup]

There are many interviews Robinson has done and all of them are available to watch on YouTube where he goes in to great lengths to explain where he is today , much of it was formed by his early life in Luton .

The rape of his cousin by Asian men , his witnessing of extreme Islam in Luton most of whom ended up getting convicted for terrorism and the way it was handled when young Robinson spoke out about it .

I suppose the end game would be for it not to be ignored again by the authorities because you happen to be a white working class kid with a bit of form .

Do you seriously believe that this is all Robinson wants? Seriously?

[mygiddypant]

no answer, didn?t think you would.

If you don't stop stalking me I shall have to tell mi dad!

[Eternal Optimist]

Robinson is the beast that the Left created.

[mygiddypant]

I don't believe i have ignored his character Kerr , I know what offences he's committed .

Views that align with mine is an interesting comment , I'm not terribly impressed by Asian men raping vulnerable girls whilst people who are supposed to protect them look the other way , I'm not super cool on extreme Islam either .

You can produce as many rap sheets as you want with Robinson's name on them but it still doesn't make him wrong though does it on Grooming Gangs and extreme Islam .

Interestingly the crimes of George Floyd didn't get much air time by certain sections , possessing drugs , dealing drugs , armed robbery and holding a woman at gunpoint .

You would have to go down some very deep rabbit holes to find anyone who wouldn't find the gangs abhorrent. But when it's pointed out

that most abuse takes place in the home by people familiar to the victim, and that the majority of abuse is done by white people (men

and women) then the abuse on here is quite vitriolic. Every George Floyd has an opposite - Donald Trump is one name that may be familiar.

[Stovicmiller]

If you don't stop stalking me I shall have to tell mi dad!

. When you tell us all who the racists are then I?ll stop asking you . Just admit you?re frightened and I?ll not ask you again.

[Timbertop]

Wonder what Sadiq Khan has to say about gang rapes !!