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[Derbymiller]

MH should not be sacked, this is work in progress, but he is making a lot of mistakes and seems a little arrogant to me. The comments on the injuries the insistence of the 3 at the back, not rotating the keepers to make dawson earn his place. Recruitment has been poor, failure to recruit a solid spine and build around it, obsession with the midfield whilst ignoring the main point of the sport (scoring goals). Lots of issues but this club cannot afford to swap managers at this time, we have to hope that if Etete and the Everton lad get a run of games things will improve. At the moment it isn't working and those players do not look a team that are in this together, only my opinion.

[NorthWestCorner]

Leaving aside your childish comment I would rather the existing manager was given time to turn things round when he has a fuller squad to pick from.
If things don't improve at that time then of course he'll be under pressure and TS might pull the trigger but I have absolutely zero confidence in the chairman's ability to pick a winner or even that there is such a person out there who would want to come to our club in the first place.
You have suggested the name of an ex-player who is on a good streak at the moment but in reality is unproven. You then go on to say you don't think he'll come here anyway. Don't you think that kind of makes the point about where we are as a club?

As usual, you’ve avoided my question. Calling out SE has having outdated methods with the implication that MHs methods are better. No evidence for this and in fact, evidence clearly demonstrating they are no better. But hey, let’s wait for him to get the players back - like there’s some evidence that it will make a difference. There is only Nombe who supports that claim. The others Etete, Sheriff and the lad from Luton have literally played about 2 matches between them.

As I said before, he will be gone in the next 4 matches.

[Townerslovechild]

As usual, you?’ve avoided my question. Calling out SE has having outdated methods with the implication that MHs methods are better. No evidence for this and in fact, evidence clearly demonstrating they are no better. But hey, let?’s wait for him to get the players back - like there?’s some evidence that it will make a difference. There is only Nombe who supports that claim. The others Etete, Sheriff and the lad from Luton have literally played about 2 matches between them.

As I said before, he will be gone in the next 4 matches.

So when he isn`t what will you do then ?

[mellowmiller]

As usual, you’ve avoided my question. Calling out SE has having outdated methods with the implication that MHs methods are better. No evidence for this and in fact, evidence clearly demonstrating they are no better. But hey, let’s wait for him to get the players back - like there’s some evidence that it will make a difference. There is only Nombe who supports that claim. The others Etete, Sheriff and the lad from Luton have literally played about 2 matches between them.

As I said before, he will be gone in the next 4 matches.

Where did you ask a question that you claim I've avoided?

[NorthWestCorner]

Where did you ask a question that you claim I've avoided?

I put outdated methods? Although as I was using my phone it didnt show the ?

No need to reply though - you are just being petulant

[NorthWestCorner]

So when he isn`t what will you do then ?

Sit down and accept rubbish we are being served up

[mellowmiller]

I put outdated methods? Although as I was using my phone it didnt show the ?

No need to reply though - you are just being petulant

Petulant? Were you looking in the mirror when you wrote that?
Evans's outdated methods were mostly about man management. Screaming abuse at players and criticising them in public just won't work nowadays whether supporters like it or not. Screaming abuse at officials is counter-productive and embarrassing.
By his own admission he didn't take training sessions and relied on his staff's assessments to guide his team selection.
We were then treated to endless, aimless hoofball games.
His second tenure at the club was a disaster. He should never have been reappointed in the first place but then he should have been fired much earlier.

Just for clarity, I haven't said anywhere that Hamshaw's methods and approach are proving any better, you have just made that up.
All I have said, and will continue to say, is that Hamshaw should be given time and let's see what happens when he has a fuller squad to pick from, when some of the injured players are available.
If things haven't improved by then, TS will have another decision to make and that won't fill me or anybody else with confidence.

[NorthWestCorner]

Petulant? Were you looking in the mirror when you wrote that?
Evans's outdated methods were mostly about man management. Screaming abuse at players and criticising them in public just won't work nowadays whether supporters like it or not. Screaming abuse at officials is counter-productive and embarrassing.
By his own admission he didn't take training sessions and relied on his staff's assessments to guide his team selection.
We were then treated to endless, aimless hoofball games.
His second tenure at the club was a disaster. He should never have been reappointed in the first place but then he should have been fired much earlier.

Just for clarity, I haven't said anywhere that Hamshaw's methods and approach are proving any better, you have just made that up.
All I have said, and will continue to say, is that Hamshaw should be given time and let's see what happens when he has a fuller squad to pick from, when some of the injured players are available.
If things haven't improved by then, TS will have another decision to make and that won't fill me or anybody else with confidence.

Not so Mellowmiller,it turns out.

By calling out SEs methods, you were and still are clearly implying MHs are better. But they aren’t and he doesn’t warrant any further time. If you think last year was a disaster then accept that what is happening now is even worse. At least last year we have 2 or 3 players who would more than cope at this level.

Mansfield and then Bradford to come. Zero chance of a point

[Back of the net]

Not so Mellowmiller,it turns out.

By calling out SEs methods, you were and still are clearly implying MHs are better. But they aren’t and he doesn’t warrant any further time. If you think last year was a disaster then accept that what is happening now is even worse. At least last year we have 2 or 3 players who would more than cope at this level.

Mansfield and then Bradford to come. Zero chance of a point

You have no credibility at all. You spent last season telling everyone they were wrong about the manager. You have just carried that on with this one. A wind up merchant multi is my guess.
Saddo.

[NorthWestCorner]

You have no credibility at all. You spent last season telling everyone they were wrong about the manager. You have just carried that on with this one. A wind up merchant multi is my guess.
Saddo.

Have a word with yourself! Credibility.............on here

[mellowmiller]

Not so Mellowmiller,it turns out.

By calling out SEs methods, you were and still are clearly implying MHs are better. But they aren’t and he doesn’t warrant any further time. If you think last year was a disaster then accept that what is happening now is even worse. At least last year we have 2 or 3 players who would more than cope at this level.

Mansfield and then Bradford to come. Zero chance of a point

It doesn't imply anything of the sort except maybe in your rather strange mind.
Just remember you kept bulling up Evans in his second spell with us despite the fact that he and the team he assembled were pretty useless.
We had to put up with the dross on offer for 50 games before TS finally sacked his mate.
You have been wanting Hamshaw to be sacked for some time now even though he inherited a total shambles and has been in charge for only 16 league games so far, half of which were at the end of last season.
It's sad that you can't accept you were wrong about the previous incumbent and are desperate for the new guy to fail so you can say "I told you so."
Maybe this football club isn't for you.

[MILLERSTALE]

As usual, you’ve avoided my question. Calling out SE has having outdated methods with the implication that MHs methods are better. No evidence for this and in fact, evidence clearly demonstrating they are no better. But hey, let’s wait for him to get the players back - like there’s some evidence that it will make a difference. There is only Nombe who supports that claim. The others Etete, Sheriff and the lad from Luton have literally played about 2 matches between them.

As I said before, he will be gone in the next 4 matches.

This is where you are failing !he will get at minimum Xmas

[NorthWestCorner]

It doesn't imply anything of the sort except maybe in your rather strange mind.
Just remember you kept bulling up Evans in his second spell with us despite the fact that he and the team he assembled were pretty useless.
We had to put up with the dross on offer for 50 games before TS finally sacked his mate.
You have been wanting Hamshaw to be sacked for some time now even though he inherited a total shambles and has been in charge for only 16 league games so far, half of which were at the end of last season.
It's sad that you can't accept you were wrong about the previous incumbent and are desperate for the new guy to fail so you can say "I told you so."
Maybe this football club isn't for you.

Sanctimonius and hypocritical. Not nice.

Its very sad and worrying me that you can't accept that your Saviour has failed to deliver, and the team he has assembled are useless, and that you are willing to ignore the fact that the club is sinking like a stone. Perhaps you are not really invested into the club and are satisifed with them spiralling out of control. Perhaps this club is not for you

[NorthWestCorner]

This is where you are failing !he will get at minimum Xmas

If / when we lose the next 3 or 4, do you really think that TS will tolerate the crowd turning on him? He won't. He never has been shy of pulling the trigger when his own reputation risks being sullied.

The "gang" on here are pinning their hopes of the return of Etete and Sherif. One who has a decent 45 mins, the other one who hasnt even been released from Finch Farm as yet.

[Townerslovechild]

If / when we lose the next 3 or 4, do you really think that TS will tolerate the crowd turning on him? He won't. He never has been shy of pulling the trigger when his own reputation risks being sullied.

The "gang" on here are pinning their hopes of the return of Etete and Sherif. One who has a decent 45 mins, the other one who hasnt even been released from Finch Farm as yet.

This is a serious question...I presume you are a fan of Rotherham United,so why do you want the manager to fail so much ?