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  • #16
    I applaud your sentiments raging but it will never happen.
    Any form of violence against any faith religion should be stopped.
    I’m sick of people thinking it’s ok to commit harm to someone because of religion etc. society has gone now. Last night at the game 2 RUFC fans were calling Bradford fans paki lovers. I called them out it’s disgusting.
    I’ve got strong views on the left but I would never ever think in any way shape or form that it’s ok to commit violence against anyone.
    These marches I understand I do but they have been hijacked by thugs, hooligans and anarchists

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Back of the net View Post
      I applaud your sentiments raging but it will never happen.
      Any form of violence against any faith religion should be stopped.
      I’m sick of people thinking it’s ok to commit harm to someone because of religion etc. society has gone now. Last night at the game 2 RUFC fans were calling Bradford fans paki lovers. I called them out it’s disgusting.
      I’ve got strong views on the left but I would never ever think in any way shape or form that it’s ok to commit violence against anyone.
      These marches I understand I do but they have been hijacked by thugs, hooligans and anarchists
      We're in agreement on much. Where i think I'd differ is that any particular protest that draws in extremists, right or left, have any more than the other. They're all ****s. But that doesn't mean that the peaceful protesters on any cause, who want to be heard don't have a right to do so. Just my opinion.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Back of the net View Post
        I applaud your sentiments raging but it will never happen.
        Any form of violence against any faith religion should be stopped.
        I’m sick of people thinking it’s ok to commit harm to someone because of religion etc. society has gone now. Last night at the game 2 RUFC fans were calling Bradford fans paki lovers. I called them out it’s disgusting.
        I’ve got strong views on the left but I would never ever think in any way shape or form that it’s ok to commit violence against anyone.
        These marches I understand I do but they have been hijacked by thugs, hooligans and anarchists
        Agree with this. Society has fallen to new low levels. Celebrating, deaths, murders all in the name of ideology, politics, blind loyalty.
        Not one politician means what they say and who can you trust to do the right thing? It’s not the government right, left or centre.

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        • #19
          October 7th 2023 changed everything in my opinion , if anything was possible within the region and I take the point that's debatable then that possibility is no longer in play .

          October 7th was answered by the Israelis and continues to be in the most brutal way , I'm somebody who recognises that narrative rather than throws the word genocide around like confetti at a wedding .

          What appears to pass many by is the fact that many in the world of extreme Islam and I dare say a fair few let's say quietly spoken Muslims wish to see the total annihilation of Israel and it's people driven out of it by any means possible .

          Perhaps we should reflect on that situation and try and walk in the shoes of the government's and people of Isreal when millions of people want you destroyed and killed .

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          • #20
            Respect to Raging,what looks like the perfect example of integration in Britain.
            Unfortunately the very thing more and more people are fighting against, sometimes literally.
            What happened this week is terrible, but just another example hatred to Jews going back thousands of years.
            What Hamas did in 2023 was despicable, but Israel has taken this to a whole different level since in Palestine,.
            I fear peace in this region is further away than ever.

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            • #21
              Maccabi Tel Aviv supporters banned from attending villa park police can’t guarantee their safety. What could the local demographic have issues with a foreign team. Such a tolerant local culture.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Yak View Post
                Maccabi Tel Aviv supporters banned from attending villa park police can’t guarantee their safety. What could the local demographic have issues with a foreign team. Such a tolerant local culture.
                Must be all those middle aged white men that are threatening them.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Yak View Post
                  Maccabi Tel Aviv supporters banned from attending villa park police can’t guarantee their safety. What could the local demographic have issues with a foreign team. Such a tolerant local culture.
                  The Muslims win again

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                  • #24
                    Just to say for anyone who?s not read reports about them in other cities earlier this year, some of their fans are no angels https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...-football-fans

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by harpo88 View Post
                      Just to say for anyone who?s not read reports about them in other cities earlier this year, some of their fans are no angels https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...-football-fans
                      But these aren’t fans thats keeping them away or they?
                      It’s yet again bowing down to a certain culture, religion.
                      It’s that apologetic attitude that allows this to happen.

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                      • #26
                        Just saying it?s more than one thing. Ajax fans were prevented from travelling to Marseille and Frankfurt fans to Naples earlier this year too. And I?m sure police don?t want their budgets stretching further. Of course ideally they would be able to come, but it?s not a simple case (nothing is)

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by harpo88 View Post
                          Just saying it?s more than one thing. Ajax fans were prevented from travelling to Marseille and Frankfurt fans to Naples earlier this year too. And I?m sure police don?t want their budgets stretching further. Of course ideally they would be able to come, but it?s not a simple case (nothing is)
                          They can’t travel because of where they are from. They aren’t not being able to travel because they are hooligans. They can’t travel because they are going to be attached if this isn’t bad enough it’s been instigated by an mp who is now gleefully celebrating on social media.
                          The cases you listed have nothing in common
                          This is purely driven by the usual suspects who are only interested in causing chaos and harm in the name of political beliefs and ideology.
                          This is a dangerous precedent but then again it’s probably past that point now. It’s too late

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Grist_To_The_Mill View Post
                            The Muslims win again
                            Birmingham is becoming a caliphate state. More will follow.

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                            • #29
                              This is a weak,wet,woke and the worst ever govt. we've had.If we cannot give protection to some away supporters who are Jewish,how bad have become.If I was a Villa fan,if away fans are banned, I would not go.Enough is enough.

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                              • #30
                                Israel isn't even in Europe - they can go and play in the Asian equivalent and see how they get on.

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