O/T Bob Vylan

[NorthWestCorner]

Surely, he should have been arrested by now? The police moved quickly to arrest those involved in spreading hatred following the Southport atrocity so why the delay?

[caytonmiller]

Glastonbury organiser could take the backlash from this as they also allowed kneecap to perform when the lead singer is being charged for SIM offences. Which again were repeated on stage ...
Freedom of speech. When is the line crossed ?

[NorthWestCorner]

This certainly crossed the line. Not sure about Kneecap as I didn’t watch that but given their previous outbursts they shouldn’t even be in the country

[Tigerish]

Lucy Connolly is serving nearly three years in jail for what I regard as a deeply misguided and offensive text message. What happened at Glastonbury is even worse because millions of people heard it. Without a shadow of doubt it is racist and incites violence. So now we await what happen to the guy who said it, the organisers and the BBC. The outcome, especially as regards the perpetrator, will reveal if we do indeed have a two tier justice system. I m intrigued what Sir Keir will do next. Something tells me the perpetrator will not end up behind bars. He's an "artist" after all isn't he?

[OneJohnnyQuinn]

BBC now appear to be the Glastonbury organiser, they should rightfully take the flack but surely they can pull the plug on any act at any time.As stated elsewhere the police will get involved if and when they feel like it

[Eternal Optimist]

Some ex-BBC wonk on GB News last night said they usually use a 15 or 30 second delay mechanism to provide time to throw the switch.

Strangely, in this instance they chose not to use it. Hmm...

[Grist_To_The_Mill]

Surely, he should have been arrested by now? The police moved quickly to arrest those involved in spreading hatred following the Southport atrocity so why the delay?

Because it is a two Kier legal system

[Scum-Triumphant]

Couple of observations

Kneecap have had 39million streams on Spotify since their set and 12 million for Bob Vylan - There truly is no such thing as bad publicity and everytime they appear in the news, on twitter, in football forums or other media it is more money and exposure for them - NWA worked this out with songs about killing cops 30+ years ago - Kim by Eminem is about Killing his Mum - Boy Named Sue By Johnny Cash is about wanting to kill his dad - Bang bang maxwell by the Beatles didn't have people smashing in skulls with silver hammers

It is pearl clutching and the Media fall for it every time.

This wasn't beamed onto everyone's telly - You have to log into the iplayer, search for it, select it and agree to the offensive language warning - It is a choice to have watched it or not and if you didn't then so what do you care?

Finally - While the focus is on some stupid chants by obscure music artists are dominating the headlines - Suddenly no one is talking about the Palestinian village that was burned to ashes yesterday or the children starving to death.

Punk, Rock, Country, Hip Hop has always had an edge to it - These lot have gone too far but it isn't as dramatic as we are being led to believe.

[fc_miller]

Maybe Lucy should have claimed she is a song writer and the text were notes for her next song.

[Scum-Triumphant]

Maybe Lucy should have claimed she is a song writer and the text were notes for her next song.

I don't think anyone benefits from her being in Jail either - 2 things can be true at the same time.

[Stansmate]

So Police conducting investigation 🤔

Wasnt Lucy arrested in no time 🤔

No 2 tier policing at all🤔

[CAMiller]

Just to clarify she was arrested 8 days after making the tweet so they have a few more days yet to arrest Bob. Time will tell if the system doles out the same harsh treatment to him that Lucy got.

[Grist_To_The_Mill]

The times they are a changin?

[DerekMiller]

I'm no fan of the justice system and I don't believe Lucy Connolly should be in prison.

But for context, Connolly posted about burning down hotels housing asylum seekers at a time when people in this country were actually setting fire to hotels where asylum seekers lived. Setting fire to buildings knowing people were inside them. Thats a very serious crime and inciting people to do that is also quite rightly a serious crime. This on the back of fake news that an asylum seeker had murdered three children in Southport. It was rightly acknowledged that a lot of the riots and disorder were sparked by false information and incitement on social media, which is why so many of the people that turned out to smash their (or somebody elses) town up knew exactly where to be at the same time as a load of other people intent on doing the same thing.

The social media posts at that time, misguided mistakes or not, were having a live time and dangerous impact on our society. The times are indeed a changing because social media is sadly a sign of the times today. People live their lives on it and believe whatever narrative that suits their agenda, because social media is actively peddling every agenda if you know where to look.

The harsh sentences were imposed as a way to deter people from doing this in the future. The same was done in 2011 when mobs amassed to smash up their local Co-Op on the back of the Mark Duggan shooting in 2011

Then we have Vylan, a singer who started a chant at a festival, attended mostly by middle aged people in a mid life crisis and bored students who might get round to waving a few angrily worded placards on a warm afternoon. Or if they really care might throw some paint on a statue or glue themselves to a viaduct. The chant was indeed hateful and should be investigated, if the hate crime standards are to be followed, but the real term consequences of this were what exactly? Assembling a few angry 40 somethings who had three days thinking it was the 90s again to stand up and take on the Israeli Defence Forces? Good luck with that.

[frogmiller]

As a lot of the music and entertainment business is Jewish own I think that it was an ill advised thing for him to do.

It seems as though he has already been dropped by his agency and it is rumoured that his up coming tour to the USA is at risk due to the threat of having his visa revoked.