Train stabbings.

[On Balance]

It is now confirmed there was only one attacker, the second was a case of mistaken identity. The one arrested attacker is British born. Mental health history is being looked into. Not suspected of being a terrorism related incident.

[baggieal]

You dont have to respect views if they dont match your values.

There was once a little bloke with an odd mustache who was voted to lead in Germany and the majority of the country followed him into atrocities. I dont respect him, Trump or the plonkers that follow them.

On Trump, how can you respect a bloke that brings world leaders onto national tv where they are humiliated by him and his cronies. They bullied Zelenskyy (and others) and I dont respect people who follow bullies.

I can?t really have a view on external leaders when our own leader is an embarrassment and Corbyn who many supported is one dangerous individual.

Pleased those Nottingham Forest supporters on the train helped those poor people. Hero?s all those who helped and superb it?s been recognised by their official web site.

[WBA123]

It appears that the two men arrested were, one black British National and the other a British National of Afro-Caribbean heritage. Why was this not disclosed straight away? It was stated because they did not want misinformation circulating on social media. Surely by not stating who they were then there was a much greater possibility of false information circulating! Does not make any sense to me.

Didn't you used to be a teacher? Jeez....I feel very sorry for your students.

Why do you think they don't release details? Genuine question.... Do you think if there's a stabbing, and they come out immediately and say its a Muslim of Asian ethnicity its going to help the situation and stop riots etc.

How about this one, do you think if the police came out and told you all the information about a suspect that could prejudice a future trial? In this train situation, one of the suspects has been released and sounds like he was maybe arrested in error.

We have due process in this country. Everyone is innocent until proven guilty. Investigations need to happen and evidence needs to be compiled.

Seriously, use your head.

[baggieal]

Didn't you used to be a teacher? Jeez....I feel very sorry for your students.

Why do you think they don't release details? Genuine question.... Do you think if there's a stabbing, and they come out immediately and say its a Muslim of Asian ethnicity its going to help the situation and stop riots etc.

How about this one, do you think if the police came out and told you all the information about a suspect that could prejudice a future trial? In this train situation, one of the suspects has been released and sounds like he was maybe arrested in error.

We have due process in this country. Everyone is innocent until proven guilty. Investigations need to happen and evidence needs to be compiled.

Seriously, use your head.

You?re wrong 123 as discussed this with a cop and he said it depends on whether it?s in the public?s interest. For example the police had to release that a migrant from the hotel in Epping has s exually assaulted a little school girl. It was in the public?s interests to know as the school route went past that hotel. Many parents could then decide on lifts/other routes or to be accompanied by an adult. The police are now getting slaughtered as they did not release the ethnicity of the grooming gangs and even Rishi said it was wrong!

Sometimes though it?s not in the publics best interests because it could prejudice a trial!

Don?t think LB deserved that attack regardless!

[Leicesterbaggie]

Didn't you used to be a teacher? Jeez....I feel very sorry for your students.

Why do you think they don't release details? Genuine question.... Do you think if there's a stabbing, and they come out immediately and say its a Muslim of Asian ethnicity its going to help the situation and stop riots etc.

How about this one, do you think if the police came out and told you all the information about a suspect that could prejudice a future trial? In this train situation, one of the suspects has been released and sounds like he was maybe arrested in error.

We have due process in this country. Everyone is innocent until proven guilty. Investigations need to happen and evidence needs to be compiled.

Seriously, use your head.

Just the opposite! By disclosing that it was a British National and not an illegal immigrant, Muslim or whatever it avoided the misinformation that could have been posted on social media which in turn could have caused unnecessary trouble. As Al stated, depends on the situation.

[On Balance]

For me, it makes no difference what race the offender is.

Why do people generally make an assumption that is there is a crime it is terror related or committed be someone who is Muslim etc.

In this case, it was neither. Has there been a backlash against black people as a result of this incident. No. Thankfully.

If it had been a person, British born, who was a Muslim, would there have been a backlash. I leave one to decide. And then question why.

Why, in a multicultural society do we need to know immediately what race, nationality or religion the perpetrator is.

The first and most important issue is, let the police do their job. Get the evidence and then, when it is gathered, put the person before the court.

Morons might well want to go out and attack people because of their colour or religious beliefs. I do believe most decent law abiding and sensible people will leave it to the police and the courts rather than carry out a witch hunt.

And I mean no offence to anyone who thinks differently. It s a board where we have to agree to disagree at times.

[Leicesterbaggie]

The problem is OB, that we now live in a society where, sadly, social media has a massive influence. Anything that can diffuse the situation should be used. That is why I made my original observation. From a personal point of view I do not post on Facebook or any other social media outlet, except this one of course!

[baggiematt]

You?re wrong 123 as discussed this with a cop and he said it depends on whether it?s in the public?s interest. For example the police had to release that a migrant from the hotel in Epping has s exually assaulted a little school girl. It was in the public?s interests to know as the school route went past that hotel. Many parents could then decide on lifts/other routes or to be accompanied by an adult. The police are now getting slaughtered as they did not release the ethnicity of the grooming gangs and even Rishi said it was wrong!

Sometimes though it?s not in the publics best interests because it could prejudice a trial!

Don?t think LB deserved that attack regardless!

But how do you define public interest Al? And why?

Why is one crime in the public interest and another isnt? Surely you can use that argument for every crime.

Are we less safe on trains now than last week? I doubt it.

There must be a stabbing a day in Liverpool and mostly by white people given the demographic. You dont see it get released ‘white Christian man stabs…’

We are in danger of society hearing about every crime by non-white people and none of the crimes by whites making the papers. That plays into the right wing hands, who are trying to argue that one part of society are a problem.

Crime happens in deprived areas, whether it’s white, black or brown.

[baggieal]

The problem is OB, that we now live in a society where, sadly, social media has a massive influence. Anything that can diffuse the situation should be used. That is why I made my original observation. From a personal point of view I do not post on Facebook or any other social media outlet, except this one of course!

Your observation was fine. .Had the police not released for example that a migrant
s exually assaulted that little school girl in Epping then would it have been safe for little school girls to have continued walking past that hotel? Who knows but many parents were giving lifts or walk sharing their daughters when it was known the horrific offence was caused by a vile man wIthin that hotel.

If a crime is committed by White British males of which there are numerous then of course this should be released immediately if it?s with the public interest and safety.

Andrew Mountbatten is white the last time I looked and whilst I detest the guy - where?s all the concrete evidence for example against him? Some could say your not guilty until proven!

God help some things if left to the police or social services which is why certain cases have to be reopened!

As mentioned before if someone like Priti Patel says stop the boats and she has - nobody calls her racist. God help anyway white saying that to a leftie. This is why the country is in a mess and problems exist in schools. The Jewish communities in the U.K. have been constantly targeted and that?s not classed as racial or hatred by many but it is!! Fact is the Jewish communities are very law abiding and there?s far less crime than White, Black or Muslim communities. Strange that!

Those Forest supporters were hero?s and should have free pints In Nottingham!

As I say don?t bite as clearly it?s evident where this post is going.

[On Balance]

The problem is OB, that we now live in a society where, sadly, social media has a massive influence. Anything that can diffuse the situation should be used. That is why I made my original observation. From a personal point of view I do not post on Facebook or any other social media outlet, except this one of course!

Same here Leicester. No Facebook, and I keep my personal mean, family, heath, work etc, well away from here. As my son blurted out, ?Facebook is for idiots.? Sorry if I have repeated myself.

Social media is an evil, because it is used by the moron element, that is it really. They are no different from the mobs that used to go out with picks and torches back in the dark ages.

If it had been someone from a Muslin background been responsible there may well have been a backlash. I just think of the police made the right call.

[baggieal]

Tell people like Steven Bartlett that Facebook and Social Media are for idiots and they would laugh at the ignorance.

Brands like Airbnb are hugely successful on social media mainly driving affluent customers to their properties. No moron element would therefore pay most of their prices or for Nike trainers who too are highly successful on these platforms 😂

[WBA123]

Just the opposite! By disclosing that it was a British National and not an illegal immigrant, Muslim or whatever it avoided the misinformation that could have been posted on social media which in turn could have caused unnecessary trouble. As Al stated, depends on the situation.

And you’re both talking cobblers.

The only way the police will divulge any information is if there’s a threat to the public. For example, someone is on the run. They won’t divulge ethnicity unless they are describing a suspect or suspects who are a threat to the public.

In this instance, the police had the guy in custody. So I ask you, or Al or anyone else on here again. What possible purpose would it serve to divulge the ethnicity of the guy they already had in a police cell?

[baggieal]

And you’re both talking cobblers.

The only way the police will divulge any information is if there’s a threat to the public. For example, someone is on the run. They won’t divulge ethnicity unless they are describing a suspect or suspects who are a threat to the public.

In this instance, the police had the guy in custody. So I ask you, or Al or anyone else on here again. What possible purpose would it serve to divulge the ethnicity of the guy they already had in a police cell?

Pretty obvious! So worried mums would not have to continue walking past that hotel where an horrific crime was committed on a young school girl. The hotel in question was on the school route and after the vile individual was in custody many parents of young girls and still do operate lift shares and there?s volunteers on the route.

Is Rishi wrong too for being critical:

Rishi Sunak has stated that "political correctness" has for too long prevented authorities from effectively tackling grooming gangs, and that this has included a reluctance to acknowledge the ethnicity of perpetrators in high-profile cases.

Perhaps Rishi was being racist 😂

[greyhorse]

Pretty obvious! So worried mums would not have to continue walking past that hotel where an horrific crime was committed on a young school girl. The hotel in question was on the school route and after the vile individual was in custody many parents of young girls and still do operate lift shares and there?s volunteers on the route.

Is Rishi wrong too for being critical:

Rishi Sunak has stated that "political correctness" has for too long prevented authorities from effectively tackling grooming gangs, and that this has included a reluctance to acknowledge the ethnicity of perpetrators in high-profile cases.

Perhaps Rishi was being racist 😂

Delusion-Al.
You?ve completely lost any credibility when it comes to arguing a point. You constantly conflate issues and show no self-awareness. It?s genuinely disappointing to see a fellow Baggies supporter hold such backwards and inconsistent views.
Just looking at your posting history, Al, it?s clear there?s a pattern: every thread you start is an attack on Black people, Muslims, or some other ethnic minority. You?ve trapped yourself in an echo chamber built by the media you consume - channels like TalkTV feed you the same narrative that minorities are to blame for everything wrong in the UK.
But here?s the hypocrisy: when a Sikh woman is raped, do you express the same outrage you do when an asylum seeker commits a crime? Of course not. That selective anger exposes exactly what you are, a hypocrite of the highest order.
And then there?s the ?Welsh choir boy? from Leicester, showing his true colours too. What did your students call you - Enoch?
Have either of you ever said a single positive thing about any minority group? Never. Yet you act as if you?re experts on crime, when in reality, your outrage only flares up when the perpetrator fits your preferred narrative.
Every time a story breaks online, people like you can?t wait to pounce the ?retard of the year? contestants racing to confirm their biases. When the facts don?t fit, you fall silent. And worst of all, you never actually care about the victims.
People like you, Al and LB, are part of the problem. Please, don?t pass those views on, the world doesn?t need more of that ignorance.

[baggieal]

Delusion-Al.
You?ve completely lost any credibility when it comes to arguing a point. You constantly conflate issues and show no self-awareness. It?s genuinely disappointing to see a fellow Baggies supporter hold such backwards and inconsistent views.
Just looking at your posting history, Al, it?s clear there?s a pattern: every thread you start is an attack on Black people, Muslims, or some other ethnic minority. You?ve trapped yourself in an echo chamber built by the media you consume - channels like TalkTV feed you the same narrative that minorities are to blame for everything wrong in the UK.
But here?s the hypocrisy: when a Sikh woman is raped, do you express the same outrage you do when an asylum seeker commits a crime? Of course not. That selective anger exposes exactly what you are, a hypocrite of the highest order.
And then there?s the ?Welsh choir boy? from Leicester, showing his true colours too. What did your students call you - Enoch?
Have either of you ever said a single positive thing about any minority group? Never. Yet you act as if you?re experts on crime, when in reality, your outrage only flares up when the perpetrator fits your preferred narrative.
Every time a story breaks online, people like you can?t wait to pounce the ?retard of the year? contestants racing to confirm their biases. When the facts don?t fit, you fall silent. And worst of all, you never actually care about the victims.
People like you, Al and LB, are part of the problem. Please, don?t pass those views on, the world doesn?t need more of that ignorance.

It?s Oldham Baggie paying a visit again and the most banned person on the forum and the smallest at 4 foot 8 inches whose mate from Barnsley away who still thinks he a ****!

Greyhorse FFS 😂😂😂