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  • How Depressing!

    Usually Monday morning is depressing where this week it will be depressing Wednesday!

    Budget on Wednesday from Mr Gutless so no doubt working people will be hit again.

    Then in the evening we face Birmingham who have just smashed in four goals. Get ready for Mason?s hat with the team selection.

    Oh dear 😂

  • #2
    Originally posted by baggieal View Post
    Usually Monday morning is depressing where this week it will be depressing Wednesday!

    Budget on Wednesday from Mr Gutless so no doubt working people will be hit again.

    Then in the evening we face Birmingham who have just smashed in four goals. Get ready for Mason?s hat with the team selection.

    Oh dear 😂
    Working late again on Wednesday so will miss the cheery news from the Accounts Dept and similarly struggle to hear news from the match.

    Can only hope that in front of a home crowd they can show some of the intent they did in the first half yesterday. Blues have found their feet now and, like Coventry, like to play a high press and will surely go for it.

    Not too confident about dealing with any subsequent calls from my Dad and brothers who are all Blues fans!😁

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Omegstrat6 View Post
      Working late again on Wednesday so will miss the cheery news from the Accounts Dept and similarly struggle to hear news from the match.

      Can only hope that in front of a home crowd they can show some of the intent they did in the first half yesterday. Blues have found their feet now and, like Coventry, like to play a high press and will surely go for it.

      Not too confident about dealing with any subsequent calls from my Dad and brothers who are all Blues fans!��
      Understood.

      In a strange way, I prefer to now go into the match as somewhat the ‘underdog’…who knows.

      Clearly the bookies are undecided with Sky offering the same odds (17/10) for either team to win and 2/1 the draw.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Prando View Post
        Understood.

        In a strange way, I prefer to now go into the match as somewhat the ‘underdog’…who knows.

        Clearly the bookies are undecided with Sky offering the same odds (17/10) for either team to win and 2/1 the draw.

        Play the same team Prando as Saturday with Collyer replacing petulant boy - then attacking from the off - no stupid subs like MJ coming off - then i'm optimistic we can get a win!

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        • #5
          Originally posted by baggieal View Post
          Play the same team Prando as Saturday with Collyer replacing petulant boy - then attacking from the off - no stupid subs like MJ coming off - then i'm optimistic we can get a win!
          Yep, I'd go along with that Al.

          Tbf, I didn't have a problem with his starting selection on Saturday. When we first lost Fellows I said that we may have to switch Mikey to the right and play Grant on the left wing and, in all honesty, I think Grant is better than Iling Junior. He certainly hasn't repaid the money the club splashed out on him in terms of goals but he puts a shift in and made a couple of very good runs on Saturday which unfortunately didn't come to fruition.

          If I was going to make any changes (aside from Collyer for Molumby) the only ones I'd consider might be Beilik for Campbell and Maja replacing Price behind Heggebo. To be fair, I thought Campbell was decent on his return from injury and even his forward play is beginning to improve but Beilik may help Mikey more when attacking. Price was pretty anonymous again on Saturday so maybe start Maja even if he can't play the full 90. The key things as you say, are to play with intent from the off and not to sub Mikey if he continues to be our main threat.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Omegstrat6 View Post
            Yep, I'd go along with that Al.

            Tbf, I didn't have a problem with his starting selection on Saturday. When we first lost Fellows I said that we may have to switch Mikey to the right and play Grant on the left wing and, in all honesty, I think Grant is better than Iling Junior. He certainly hasn't repaid the money the club splashed out on him in terms of goals but he puts a shift in and made a couple of very good runs on Saturday which unfortunately didn't come to fruition.

            If I was going to make any changes (aside from Collyer for Molumby) the only ones I'd consider might be Beilik for Campbell and Maja replacing Price behind Heggebo. To be fair, I thought Campbell was decent on his return from injury and even his forward play is beginning to improve but Beilik may help Mikey more when attacking. Price was pretty anonymous again on Saturday so maybe start Maja even if he can't play the full 90. The key things as you say, are to play with intent from the off and not to sub Mikey if he continues to be our main threat.
            Yes, I am of the same opinion. Replace Molumby with Collyer and go into the game with a positive approach.

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            • #7
              We have 3 matches in 8 days (again) though 2 of them at least are at home Bham City/Swansea and Coventry wasn't too far to go. I expect some squad rotation for the starting positions. Mikey Johnston is probably 1st or 2nd on the teamsheet currently but we need more from the others. Some supporters turned when Oxford scored their first goal a fortnight ago so lets hope we start on the front foot and hold it.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by baggieal View Post
                Usually Monday morning is depressing where this week it will be depressing Wednesday!

                Budget on Wednesday from Mr Gutless so no doubt working people will be hit again.

                Then in the evening we face Birmingham who have just smashed in four goals. Get ready for Mason?s hat with the team selection.

                Oh dear 😂
                This is Scammer’s Britain Al, we’ll get rinsed again. It’ll be the usual thing and recycle again and again.. tax rises by Rachel Theives - I give her a month and will be made the scapegoat for further unrest and she’ll be gone. Incoming new beacon of light with promise to fix the economy. Happy gloomy Monday everyone- the week can only get better, maybe not while Mason in charge.

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                • #9
                  Not going to worry about the budget to much, I can?t change it. Not sure anyone can or will, at least in the short term. There is not one party out there that has the ability to change things. We want more spent on defence etc. the roads are in a mess, environmental issues with rivers and none one is grasping the underlying issues. There are so many issues that are wrong it does not bear thinking about.

                  The lower paid will likely take the brunt of it. There are already so many living below the poverty line it is shocking in this day and age. Who would want to be a politician. Not me.
                  Last edited by On Balance; 24-11-2025, 09:08 AM.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by regis80 View Post
                    This is Scammer’s Britain Al, we’ll get rinsed again. It’ll be the usual thing and recycle again and again.. tax rises by Rachel Theives - I give her a month and will be made the scapegoat for further unrest and she’ll be gone. Incoming new beacon of light with promise to fix the economy. Happy gloomy Monday everyone- the week can only get better, maybe not while Mason in charge.
                    Morning Regis - you have hit the nail on the head mate mate regarding Rachel from Accounts and Mason.

                    The sad thing is they don’t realise how many own goals they score and how much they are hated. Take the two child cap and yes there are exceptions but 123 was correct in saying many already on universal credit will be the beneficiaries if they get rid of it. That’s the problem for many it’s more financially beneficial to sit on backsides than work and the worst for being lazy are the whites.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by On Balance View Post
                      Not going to worry about the budget to much, I can?t change it. Not sure anyone can or will, at least in the short term. There is not one party out there that has the ability to change things. We want more spent on defence etc. the roads are in a mess, environmental issues with rivers and none one is grasping the underlying issues. There are so many issues that are wrong it does not bear thinking about.

                      The lower paid will likely take the brunt of it. There are already so many living below the poverty line it is shocking in this day and age. Who would want to be a politician. Not me.
                      It would be nice if we had a government, any government that prioritised growth.

                      I read somewhere that this budget is expected to cost us anything up to 0.5% of our GDP. Why?

                      We smash higher earners and businesses, but long term this doesn't trickle down to the poorest in society. The high earners leave and business becomes uncompetitive in this country.

                      A long term vision would be to try and increase average wages, to promote foreign companies investing in the UK, to incentivise SME businesses and entrepreneurs.

                      Does increasing NI contributions on employers do this? Nope.

                      Unfortunately, our prominent political parties put business growth right at the back of their agenda. And yes, I include Reform in that too. They are much more concerned about being voted in at the next election, or fighting for their political survival (as Starmer is apparently doing right now). This is all a cycle and means the country just progressively becomes poorer.

                      We lost 277k people last year to emigration. Let's be honest, they're probably the higher earners. And what is keeping them here? Move abroad and there is less crime, better weather and far less tax. Their standard of living will increase. Its almost a win-win all round.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by WBA123 View Post
                        It would be nice if we had a government, any government that prioritised growth.

                        I read somewhere that this budget is expected to cost us anything up to 0.5% of our GDP. Why?

                        We smash higher earners and businesses, but long term this doesn't trickle down to the poorest in society. The high earners leave and business becomes uncompetitive in this country.

                        A long term vision would be to try and increase average wages, to promote foreign companies investing in the UK, to incentivise SME businesses and entrepreneurs.

                        Does increasing NI contributions on employers do this? Nope.

                        Unfortunately, our prominent political parties put business growth right at the back of their agenda. And yes, I include Reform in that too. They are much more concerned about being voted in at the next election, or fighting for their political survival (as Starmer is apparently doing right now). This is all a cycle and means the country just progressively becomes poorer.

                        We lost 277k people last year to emigration. Let's be honest, they're probably the higher earners. And what is keeping them here? Move abroad and there is less crime, better weather and far less tax. Their standard of living will increase. It’s almost a win-win all round.
                        Totally correct 123. Every large blue chip company that gets taxed more ie NI contributions will pass this on to the consumer. I know one large blue chip company ready to press the button this Weds in the event of from a director who works there.

                        Only those with wealth will have emigrated as you say as in many countries only considerably wealth will buy a residents permit etc. Sadly Brexit stopped working or living in the EU now unless you have a large sum of cash or a business that turns over XYZ employing locals.

                        My daughter has just received her number one university offer for Kings College and one year of the four is compulsory to study at a top uni in the USA. I have told her to jump at the opportunity to taste overseas life.

                        The main beneficiaries will be those on universal credit especially if they scrap the child two child benefit as you rightly said. Sad but true.

                        Keep taxing the rich and they will go overseas 100%

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by WBA123 View Post
                          It would be nice if we had a government, any government that prioritised growth.

                          I read somewhere that this budget is expected to cost us anything up to 0.5% of our GDP. Why?

                          We smash higher earners and businesses, but long term this doesn't trickle down to the poorest in society. The high earners leave and business becomes uncompetitive in this country.

                          A long term vision would be to try and increase average wages, to promote foreign companies investing in the UK, to incentivise SME businesses and entrepreneurs.

                          Does increasing NI contributions on employers do this? Nope.

                          Unfortunately, our prominent political parties put business growth right at the back of their agenda. And yes, I include Reform in that too. They are much more concerned about being voted in at the next election, or fighting for their political survival (as Starmer is apparently doing right now). This is all a cycle and means the country just progressively becomes poorer.

                          We lost 277k people last year to emigration. Let's be honest, they're probably the higher earners. And what is keeping them here? Move abroad and there is less crime, better weather and far less tax. Their standard of living will increase. Its almost a win-win all round.
                          Just looked at the emigration figures 123, that is quite shocking.

                          I agree with much of what you are saying. As you say no party comes up with anything to stop the decline. They are so busy knocking each other they appear to lose vision of what they are there to do or perhaps they are that inept they just don’t have a clue as to what to do. In effect they keep doing the same thing over and over again.

                          All parties have failed for decades and yes, as you indicate, not one of them have seriously implemented change.

                          Your last sentence does make one think about the benefits of getting out. However, I guess there will be some downsides to doing so in reality.

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                          • #14
                            Tesco's pre-tax profit for the 12 months to February 2023 was approximately £1 billion, which was less than half of the previous year's profit. More recently, the company is forecasting annual profits of £2.9bn to £3.1bn for the year to February 2026.

                            Above copy pasted from Google.

                            So companies are making some dosh, whose pockets are being lined up? Nothing against tesco, but apply this logic to companies not paying their bit. Where is the money going?

                            I’m sure last time the inflation was caused by people buying more bread and chocolates, surely our economics model is broken. Also why are we paying £50B in interest to banks for money printed? When this rate of interest could be reduced?

                            If anyone wants to leave should be allowed to leave, they can take their business elsewhere- but please leave your passport behind - you ain’t being allowed back in.

                            The problem with tax increases - they never tell you for how long for? They can’t even calculate how many years it would take to get out the mess. Why not? I find this bizzare. Suppose the debt, or amount to bring us back to a certain level was £100B.. as a one off - surely as a proposal/truce the gov says we all need to chip in for this one off payment. A real truce to avoid tax increases - reason it won’t happen is because the whole thing about the debt is probably a lie.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by regis80 View Post
                              Tesco's pre-tax profit for the 12 months to February 2023 was approximately £1 billion, which was less than half of the previous year's profit. More recently, the company is forecasting annual profits of £2.9bn to £3.1bn for the year to February 2026.

                              Above copy pasted from Google.

                              So companies are making some dosh, whose pockets are being lined up? Nothing against tesco, but apply this logic to companies not paying their bit. Where is the money going?

                              I’m sure last time the inflation was caused by people buying more bread and chocolates, surely our economics model is broken. Also why are we paying £50B in interest to banks for money printed? When this rate of interest could be reduced?

                              If anyone wants to leave should be allowed to leave, they can take their business elsewhere- but please leave your passport behind - you ain’t being allowed back in.

                              The problem with tax increases - they never tell you for how long for? They can’t even calculate how many years it would take to get out the mess. Why not? I find this bizzare. Suppose the debt, or amount to bring us back to a certain level was £100B.. as a one off - surely as a proposal/truce the gov says we all need to chip in for this one off payment. A real truce to avoid tax increases - reason it won’t happen is because the whole thing about the debt is probably a lie.
                              Hello Regis, been a while and hope you're keeping well.

                              In terms of this, Tesco's profit margin is 2%. Yes they make a lot of profit in terms of the figures, but looking at their margin I wouldn't exactly call 2% profiteering. Its a well run company that is absolutely huge in this country.

                              And as for people leaving, I'm on the opposite side of the fence. We need to incentivise high earners and entrepreneurs to stay. We want these people paying to stay to pay tax and help grow the economy. The more that tax is increased the less it incentivises them to stay.

                              What we need to look at is what will actually net us the most of tax received? It might mean more competitive corporation tax rates, or decreasing the top rate of tax. I read somewhere that the most amount of corporation tax received by the Govt was when it was at its lowest, at 19%. This entices foreign companies in to invest in this country and create jobs. It gives smaller business directors more available cash to invest or spend in the economy.

                              We already have a progressive tax system, which is the way it should be. But its starting to favour the lower earners now. A 20k salary means you are paying around 10% in tax, but a 200k salary is around 42% in tax. We are penalising people from earning more and paying more in tax once they hit particular thresholds, which is wrong.

                              The whole tax system needs a complete overhaul. Its not fit for purpose anymore.

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