Everton down to 10 very early on and Moyes reacts instantly, Everton go on to win the game, that?s the difference between an experienced manager and a guy that clearly has no idea
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Originally posted by Bombers right foot View PostEverton down to 10 very early on and Moyes reacts instantly, Everton go on to win the game, that?s the difference between an experienced manager and a guy that clearly has no idea
Couldn?t agree more Bomber! Mason has zero clue of management hence the completely wrong decisions match after match. The hat is ready for Weds to pick the starting line up!
Lose and the boos will be very loud,
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But Everton are a decent team Bomber and Man Utd are not. Albion are not a decent team and have many sub mediocre players. Plus Coventry are decent enough at this moment. Most managers inheriting this squad would struggle.Originally posted by Bombers right foot View PostEverton down to 10 very early on and Moyes reacts instantly, Everton go on to win the game, that?s the difference between an experienced manager and a guy that clearly has no idea
Regardless of what wages they are on, they are a very poor bunch presently.
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My view Dubs is the team are good enough to challenge for the play offs or there abouts. Mason is the huge problem!!! Yes we need a couple of players but so do others.Originally posted by Dubbag View PostBut Everton are a decent team Bomber and Man Utd are not. Albion are not a decent team and have many sub mediocre players. Plus Coventry are decent enough at this moment. Most managers inheriting this squad would struggle.
Regardless of what wages they are on, they are a very poor bunch presently.
Hull, Bristol and Preston play lovely football and are top six for a reason. Certainly not money as they have spent far less than us. Their managers like to play good football on the front foot.
We had Coventry on the rack until Mason f ucked it up by subbing MJ our best player and not taking off JM. I could understand it if JM was not a petulant hot head and a decent player. He?s neither and Collyer is better so why did he not make that change? Brainless!
Useless and every game there?s a problem caused by Mason! Expect more bizarre selections/subs this Weds and anyone would think Barcelona are arriving!
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Good points Dubbag. A different game, and a very decent side playing a very average one. Apply that with what what?s been said already, regarding an experienced man and a novice still learning, (we hope) then there is a huge difference in the likely outcome. All managers/coaches had to start from somewhere.Originally posted by Dubbag View PostBut Everton are a decent team Bomber and Man Utd are not. Albion are not a decent team and have many sub mediocre players. Plus Coventry are decent enough at this moment. Most managers inheriting this squad would struggle.
Regardless of what wages they are on, they are a very poor bunch presently.
Mason does need to wise up though. His substitution of Johnson at half time last week was quite inexcusable.
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The thing is Al, we were all in agreement at the start that we needed a young manager and not another Pulis, Bruce et al type of manager. We wanted a youthful looking manager for a change. Well we got one.Originally posted by baggieal View PostMy view Dubs is the team are good enough to challenge for the play offs or there abouts. Mason is the huge problem!!! Yes we need a couple of players but so do others.
Hull, Bristol and Preston play lovely football and are top six for a reason. Certainly not money as they have spent far less than us. Their managers like to play good football on the front foot.
We had Coventry on the rack until Mason f ucked it up by subbing MJ our best player and not taking off JM. I could understand it if JM was not a petulant hot head and a decent player. He?s neither and Collyer is better so why did he not make that change? Brainless!
Useless and every game there?s a problem caused by Mason! Expect more bizarre selections/subs this Weds and anyone would think Barcelona are arriving!
I expected only mid table at best this season and not near play offs. Yes he needs to learn but that usually is the way with youth and inexperienced personnel who are brought in as new.
Bruce is still looking for work, I think.....
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I'm quite sure the clock is ticking for him, as very few managers will be given the time Ferguson was given all those years a go at United...Originally posted by On Balance View PostGood points Dubbag. A different game, and a very decent side playing a very average one. Apply that with what what?s been said already, regarding an experienced man and a novice still learning, (we hope) then there is a huge difference in the likely outcome. All managers/coaches had to start from somewhere.
Mason does need to wise up though. His substitution of Johnson at half time last week was quite inexcusable.
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AND I suspect chants of ?you?re getting sacked in the morning?Originally posted by baggieal View PostCouldn?t agree more Bomber! Mason has zero clue of management hence the completely wrong decisions match after match. The hat is ready for Weds to pick the starting line up!
Lose and the boos will be very loud,
However, a win for us, AND ?there?s only one Ryan Mason, one Ryan Mason?.
Such is football fickleness
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I agree no dinosaur but thereÂ’s plenty of good young managers who have had managerial experience. Mason has had none and it tells. I expected top ten but was still hoping for play offs. Are we saying Hull, Bristol and Preston are better than us because they are playing great football and in the top six on a shoe string budget? No of course not but they have good managers and in the top six for a reason.Originally posted by Dubbag View PostThe thing is Al, we were all in agreement at the start that we needed a young manager and not another Pulis, Bruce et al type of manager. We wanted a youthful looking manager for a change. Well we got one.
I expected only mid table at best this season and not near play offs. Yes he needs to learn but that usually is the way with youth and inexperienced personnel who are brought in as new.
Bruce is still looking for work, I think.....
Bostock who has enormous potential for us and all we hear is - heÂ’s a kid! Well Arteta played a school boy of 15 in the Champions League because heÂ’s got balls to try him. Sadly Bostock will be snatched soon like all our good youngsters and wouldnÂ’t blame him leaving one bit!
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Originally posted by Dubbag View PostThe thing is Al, we were all in agreement at the start that we needed a young manager and not another Pulis, Bruce et al type of manager. We wanted a youthful looking manager for a change. Well we got one.
I expected only mid table at best this season and not near play offs. Yes he needs to learn but that usually is the way with youth and inexperienced personnel who are brought in as new.
Bruce is still looking for work, I think.....
Mason does not have the balls Swedish to play the kids. His chum called Jed will no doubt be back soon - probably in a wheel chair 😭Originally posted by SwedishBaggie View PostIf they?re good enough play the youngsters - I think F?bregas played in the PL aged 15?
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Agree Dubbag, I do not think Mason has long left. Tonight might be his final game or perhaps Saturday. If we lose either one of them then sadly for me, he will be given the axe.Originally posted by Dubbag View PostI'm quite sure the clock is ticking for him, as very few managers will be given the time Ferguson was given all those years a go at United...
Although I don’t like his style, he is on a learning curve and the constant changing of coach/manager is not good. And as I have said before, if the Nestor model is not working (it hasn’t for the last two bosses, possibly three) why are we so focused on it.
What will be will be.
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I think most supporters will be expecting a win tonight Prando so can?t see any singing for Mason regardless until we are where Hull, Preston and Bristol are in the table who are no better player wise but play better!Originally posted by Prando View PostAND I suspect chants of ?you?re getting sacked in the morning?
However, a win for us, AND ?there?s only one Ryan Mason, one Ryan Mason?.
Such is football fickleness 
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Speaking personally, I am HOPING for a win tonight…certainly not EXPECTING !!!Originally posted by baggieal View PostI think most supporters will be expecting a win tonight Prando so can?t see any singing for Mason regardless until we are where Hull, Preston and Bristol are in the table who are no better player wise but play better!
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