New Keeper

[Bombers right foot]

Shame we couldn?t get Alex Palmer on loan, second choice now at Ipswich

[Lindenbaggie]

Come June absolutely poor high paid players like Maja, Wallace, Dike should be shown the door. Personally, I would try and raise funds by selling Griffiths and Grant in this transfer window.

I would have thought these young managers would relish youngsters like Bostock, Williams and Whitwell getting minutes. Maybe it?s because Mason and Ramsay can?t be remembered for their playing careers 😂

With respect, plenty of managers/coaches around and been around who aren't remembered for their playing careers. For examples, Bertie Mee at Arsenal, and latterly Sven Ericsson and Mourinho. Too early to really form an opinion on Ramsay, but I can't ignore the fact he's been coaching at different levels for twenty years already, and in that time would have had to deal with all sorts of situations regarding tactics/man management. The fact he did upstick to America to further his experience reveals ambition and focus for progression. I don't think this guy will tolerate falling standards, and will not be shy in reminding players. Last night's performance over the 90 minutes was a plus, but let's see how things are at the end of February.

[baggieal]

With respect, plenty of managers/coaches around and been around who aren't remembered for their playing careers. For examples, Bertie Mee at Arsenal, and latterly Sven Ericsson and Mourinho. Too early to really form an opinion on Ramsay, but I can't ignore the fact he's been coaching at different levels for twenty years already, and in that time would have had to deal with all sorts of situations regarding tactics/man management. The fact he did upstick to America to further his experience reveals ambition and focus for progression. I don't think this guy will tolerate falling standards, and will not be shy in reminding players. Last night's performance over the 90 minutes was a plus, but let's see how things are at the end of February.

Good post Linden. I do suspect he?s different from Mason and dropping Griffiths rightly or wrongly shows he?s firmly in charge. I sincerely hope he succeeds but he needs player investment and to try the youngsters. Give the youngsters minutes like Bostock and they will become your biggest assets like Fellows was. I rate Bostock, Whitwell and Williams highly and they are the future. Not Wallace who will be gone in June on his 30K a week and a very average Junior who was also poor at Boro. Fans will be rightly behind Ramsay and it?s Nestor now who has become a figure of frustration by many.

I honestly do not think we will go down and still predict a mid table finish.

[SwedishBaggie]

Come June absolutely poor high paid players like Maja, Wallace, Dike should be shown the door. Personally, I would try and raise funds by selling Griffiths and Grant in this transfer window.

I would have thought these young managers would relish youngsters like Bostock, Williams and Whitwell getting minutes. Maybe it?s because Mason and Ramsay can?t be remembered for their playing careers 😂

Not a prolific playing career, maybe, for Mason, but, some 50 + PL games and one cap for England is better than most ever achieve.

Ramsay, on the other hand, a non existent playing career almost, and never at any level to speak of.

[Dubbag]

Ramsay, on the other hand, a non existent playing career almost, and never at any level to speak of.

Didn't Hodgson have no playing career either?
He went on an managed well.
Hard to know what the ingredients of a good manager are nowadays.

[baggiematt]

Didn't Hodgson have no playing career either?
He went on an managed well.
Hard to know what the ingredients of a good manager are nowadays.

If anything it should boost your credentials as he hasnt got to where he has got to just because he was a good player. He has done it the hard way.

[Dubbag]

If anything it should boost your credentials as he hasnt got to where he has got to just because he was a good player. He has done it the hard way.

There have been a few none players who became good managers.
To early in the morning to remember some others but they are there

[baggieal]

Let?s just hope our young talented players get minutes as they are certainly as good if not better than the lack of quality we have. If they don?t get opportunities then can?t blame them for moving on. Someone will see their talent as they have with many of our other youngsters.

Youngsters are hungry and care. Can the same be said of the likes of Maja and Dike?

[SwedishBaggie]

There have been a few none players who became good managers.
To early in the morning to remember some others but they are there

Quite a few I believe, Hodgson as you mention, but also Gerard Houillier, Arrigo Sacchi, Carlos Alberto Pareira, Rafael Benitez.

And, the Swedish manager at Middlesbrough, Kim Hellberg, is another example, albeit at a lower level than the aforementioned.

[baggiematt]

Quite a few I believe, Hodgson as you mention, but also Gerard Houillier, Arrigo Sacchi, Carlos Alberto Pareira, Rafael Benitez.

And, the Swedish manager at Middlesbrough, Kim Hellberg, is another example, albeit at a lower level than the aforementioned.

Brendan Rogers retired early through injury and started a coaching career.

[Dubbag]

Let?s just hope our young talented players get minutes as they are certainly as good if not better than the lack of quality we have. If they don?t get opportunities then can?t blame them for moving on. Someone will see their talent as they have with many of our other youngsters.

Youngsters are hungry and care. Can the same be said of the likes of Maja and Dike?

Youngsters also need lots of guidance to. I remember a goof few years back away against Chelsea and leading 2-1 going into injury time and one of our youngsters going tearing down the pitch with the ball. Needed to go into the corner but went for goal and lost possession.
Chelsea went straight back down and rightly scored. Give youngsters a chance but they need mentors on the pitch not headless chickens.
We presently only have headless chickens.

[Dubbag]

Quite a few I believe, Hodgson as you mention, but also Gerard Houillier, Arrigo Sacchi, Carlos Alberto Pareira, Rafael Benitez.

And, the Swedish manager at Middlesbrough, Kim Hellberg, is another example, albeit at a lower level than the aforementioned.

If you can manage people then you can manage. If you are no good with people, it will show in your management style or lack of.

[Omegstrat6]

Good post Linden. I do suspect he?s different from Mason and dropping Griffiths rightly or wrongly shows he?s firmly in charge. I sincerely hope he succeeds but he needs player investment and to try the youngsters. Give the youngsters minutes like Bostock and they will become your biggest assets like Fellows was. I rate Bostock, Whitwell and Williams highly and they are the future. Not Wallace who will be gone in June on his 30K a week and a very average Junior who was also poor at Boro. Fans will be rightly behind Ramsay and it?s Nestor now who has become a figure of frustration by many.

I honestly do not think we will go down and still predict a mid table finish.

Certainly hope you are right with that last prediction Al!

I've always thought that this group of players, despite some obvious shortcomings, had enough quality amongst them to be mid table at least but they haven't helped themselves with results in the first half of this season. Given where we currently sit in the table, I think a mid-table finish would be quite an achievement.

Very early days of course, but Ramsay seems to exude more confidence than Mason and also sounds more demanding so maybe he will be able to turn the ship around. Hopefully, we will also see him give opportunities to our younger players like Bostock, Whitwell and Williams in the process.

[Leicesterbaggie]

Certainly agree with your final paragraph Omegstrat. However, and I hope that I am wrong, I am not convinced regarding the youngsters. What baffles me is the age of the youngsters playing in the Premier League so why not in the Champioship?

[Omegstrat6]

Certainly agree with your final paragraph Omegstrat. However, and I hope that I am wrong, I am not convinced regarding the youngsters. What baffles me is the age of the youngsters playing in the Premier League so why not in the Champioship?

Don't quite know what it is either Leics. I do understand though that the step up from PL2 to the Championship is massive and that loan periods out to League One clubs, for example, are therefore really valuable in building up both physicality and game experience. That said, Mozza played both Bostock and Whitwell in the cup game. Whitwell was unlucky with that early possible concussion injury and didn't get much chance to show what he can offer but I thought that Bostock's performance at least earned him further opportunities.

Given our current situation especially, Ramsay will certainly want to field the players he feels best suited for each game which would, of course, normally be from amongst our group of senior players but it's hard not to think, for example, that Bostock may offer more than Illing Junior.

Training with the first team is valuable and a clear step up in their development but getting some actual game time experience is better still and we don't want to potentially lose our better youngsters through not giving them opportunities-they could well play a big part in our rebuild for the future.