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    What I do not understand about all this is why these survivors just do not name those individuals involved. They know who they are and when interviewed they say that they want justice. Well, name them then! My theory is that they have been well paid off to not reveal who these men are, and let?s be honest, Trump is up to his neck in all this.

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    Originally posted by Leicesterbaggie View Post
    What I do not understand about all this is why these survivors just do not name those individuals involved. They know who they are and when interviewed they say that they want justice. Well, name them then! My theory is that they have been well paid off to not reveal who these men are, and let?s be honest, Trump is up to his neck in all this.
    Don't think we are ever going to learn much from these files Leics-at least not until many years time when certain individuals are dead and buried. The delay in release has been sold as having to take the time to protect the identity of the victims but it is difficult not to view it instead as being to rather protect the identities of the guilty-many of whom are the rich and powerful. The pages are so heavily redacted as to be almost meaningless.

    Andrew Mountbatten-Windsor for example, clearly had ties with Epstein even after his conviction but, seedy as this is, expressing interest in meeting a 26 year old Russian woman is not illegal. Trump, Musk, Gates and others are mentioned but there is nothing technically illegal revealed.

    Given both Trumps history of misogyny and the levels of corruption and griftng surrounding him, it is only natural to believe that much has been hidden. Moreover, the Toddler in Chief has a long history of taking actions to silence his critics, decrying claims against him as "fake news" and appointing his own sycophants to key roles in government -including the FBI and DoJ- in order to twist any narrative to his own viewpoint. This behaviour naturally makes many suspicious that he is deliberately obstructing any transparency in the release of the files in order to hide any wrong doing on his behalf.

    I'm sure many will continue to believe he was involved with Epstein and his soliciting and abuse of under-age girls/ young women but from Trump's point of view, there is still no proof of it and so he can continue to deny the allegations and call such claims as outright lies driven by Trump Derangement syndrome.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Leicesterbaggie View Post
      What I do not understand about all this is why these survivors just do not name those individuals involved. They know who they are and when interviewed they say that they want justice. Well, name them then! My theory is that they have been well paid off to not reveal who these men are, and let?s be honest, Trump is up to his neck in all this.
      I think its the power of the individuals they want to name, who would just say they are lying and possibly sue them for defamation.

      Also the perpetrators themselves are dangerous. Im not one for conspiracy theories but wager neither Epstein or Giuffre killed themselves.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Omegstrat6 View Post
        Don't think we are ever going to learn much from these files Leics-at least not until many years time when certain individuals are dead and buried. The delay in release has been sold as having to take the time to protect the identity of the victims but it is difficult not to view it instead as being to rather protect the identities of the guilty-many of whom are the rich and powerful. The pages are so heavily redacted as to be almost meaningless.

        Andrew Mountbatten-Windsor for example, clearly had ties with Epstein even after his conviction but, seedy as this is, expressing interest in meeting a 26 year old Russian woman is not illegal. Trump, Musk, Gates and others are mentioned but there is nothing technically illegal revealed.

        Given both Trumps history of misogyny and the levels of corruption and griftng surrounding him, it is only natural to believe that much has been hidden. Moreover, the Toddler in Chief has a long history of taking actions to silence his critics, decrying claims against him as "fake news" and appointing his own sycophants to key roles in government -including the FBI and DoJ- in order to twist any narrative to his own viewpoint. This behaviour naturally makes many suspicious that he is deliberately obstructing any transparency in the release of the files in order to hide any wrong doing on his behalf.

        I'm sure many will continue to believe he was involved with Epstein and his soliciting and abuse of under-age girls/ young women but from Trump's point of view, there is still no proof of it and so he can continue to deny the allegations and call such claims as outright lies driven by Trump Derangement syndrome.
        Not a fan of Trump but he has brought illegal immigration down, unlike our toolmakers son who keeps allowing in the rubber dinghies and let to roam our streets unvetted. Reform will get in and they will initiate our own DOGE.
        Beat baggieAl to it.
        😂

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        • #5
          Seems that the identity of some victims has not been protected which is currently causing a bit of a furore, especially given that the released files don't appear to give any explicit proof regarding the identity of their abusers!

          Difficult not to agree with Leics' feeling that some victims have been paid off, but apparently others have not been afforded the anonymity that the DoJ were so keen to prove their diligence on. Can't see much of the claimed transparency here but then who honestly thought that we would?

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          • #6
            Three million pages released!!
            Anybody could be in that lot.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by regis80 View Post
              Not a fan of Trump but he has brought illegal immigration down, unlike our toolmakers son who keeps allowing in the rubber dinghies and let to roam our streets unvetted. Reform will get in and they will initiate our own DOGE.
              Beat baggieAl to it.
              😂

              All true! The murder of that poor girl stabbed 23 times in the head by someone who had just arrived staying in a cozy warm hotel is far worse than the outage from those in the UK on what?s going on overseas. Labour are complete toast!

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