Mozza - Managerial Credentials

[Prando]

He has undoubtedly proved himself capable of bringing the best out of our squad and clearly engendered the spirit and commitment we wish to see. Last night it was evident that everyone gave 100% with a tremendous team spirit and rapport with the crowd.

In my opinion, if Mozza wants the Head Coach role, he should, at the least, be told that he will be invited to throw his hat in the ring.

Substitutions - lack of - are an issue for me, but I understand some reluctance given the bench options. Sule pleasantly surprised me ! Mozza needs some support in his substitution thinking.

Bostock for Price may have been an option, but to be fair Price r an himself into the ground (as they all did)

Nice on Mozza.

[baggiematt]

We have been superb since he took over. I cant see how another manager can take over a side someone else has galvanised and make that work.

In terms of the subs, we actually grew in the game without making subs. We also seem to be cutting out the mistakes at the end of games since he has been making less subs. This i think speaks to the lack of quality on the bench.

I think he has been quite wise not bringing on kids at the minute.

[Bombers right foot]

Even though he?s done a great job with a bunch of seriel no hopers, I feel a total clear out is needed, players and coaching staff, a total reset, goodbye to the likes of Wildsmith, Gilchrist, Mepham, Dike, Maja, Heggebo, Mowatt, Taylor, Price, Griffiths and Wallace, plus the coaching staff that have been there too long, next season is the ideal opportunity for a total reset

[baggiematt]

Even though he?s done a great job with a bunch of seriel no hopers, I feel a total clear out is needed, players and coaching staff, a total reset, goodbye to the likes of Wildsmith, Gilchrist, Mepham, Dike, Maja, Heggebo, Mowatt, Taylor, Price, Griffiths and Wallace, plus the coaching staff that have been there too long, next season is the ideal opportunity for a total reset

Who from the coaching staff would you get rid of and what have they done individually for you to suggest they should be chopped?

[Bombers right foot]

Who from the coaching staff would you get rid of and what have they done individually for you to suggest they should be chopped?

I would get rid of all of them and start a fresh, just because Morrison has raised the bar it doesn?t mean to say everything is fine, we?ve had our fair share of dross playing and coaching wise over the last few seasons, it?s time for a mega clear out otherwise I feel we?ll just plod on going from one crisis to the next

[Omegstrat6]

If Morrison was so much a part of the problem with us under Corberan, Mowbray, Mason and Ramsay, then how come he has got an even more limited squad playing as they are now?

Very difficult to comment with too much accuracy without seeing what was happening in pre/ post match discussions and planning or being on the training ground but I'd be more inclined to blame the club's game model and desire to adhere to it and the previous incumbents than Morrison and the coaching staff for our previous poor performances. Poor recruitment hasn't helped either of course, nor the financial pressures that saw us sell Palmer, Heggem and Fellows.

Curtis Davies made the point that -assuming we do avoid relegation-next year will very much depend on the choices the club makes and monies available. Do we have the finances to purchase proven Championship players and engage a proven Championship manager to aim for play offs next season or do we see it as more of a long term project rebuild which might suit Morrison better? Moreover, does Mozza himself want the job? Prior to this, he didn't seem over keen to take it on permanently but if we survive and continue to improve as we have done over recent games then his own confidence will have grown and he may reconsider.

I get why many might want an "experienced" manager with proven successes for next season but, in all seriousness, does any one genuinely think that such a manager could have achieved any better with this group of players than Morrison has done since he has taken over?

[baggieal]

I would get rid of all of them and start a fresh, just because Morrison has raised the bar it doesn?t mean to say everything is fine, we?ve had our fair share of dross playing and coaching wise over the last few seasons, it?s time for a mega clear out otherwise I feel we?ll just plod on going from one crisis to the next

Totally agree with you Bomber and a group in the pub at Blackburn all said the same. A complete clear out needed. I remember many gushing about Big Dave who was clueless overall in his managerial reign and the Port Vale supporters could not wait to see the back of him. Great guy though!

Skubala for me and a manager with a fresh vision who plays young classy players which is why Sunderland have been so successful.

Sule would be better than Heggebo as he?s got great quick feet. Just needs balls to play a youngster like some other managers. How can you say experience or lack of it - what has Heggebo done in recent matches? Nothing!

[baggieal]

If Morrison was so much a part of the problem with us under Corberan, Mowbray, Mason and Ramsay, then how come he has got an even more limited squad playing as they are now?

Very difficult to comment with too much accuracy without seeing what was happening in pre/ post match discussions and planning or being on the training ground but I'd be more inclined to blame the club's game model and desire to adhere to it and the previous incumbents than Morrison and the coaching staff for our previous poor performances. Poor recruitment hasn't helped either of course, nor the financial pressures that saw us sell Palmer, Heggem and Fellows.

Curtis Davies made the point that -assuming we do avoid relegation-next year will very much depend on the choices the club makes and monies available. Do we have the finances to purchase proven Championship players and engage a proven Championship manager to aim for play offs next season or do we see it as more of a long term project rebuild which might suit Morrison better? Moreover, does Mozza himself want the job? Prior to this, he didn't seem over keen to take it on permanently but if we survive and continue to improve as we have done over recent games then his own confidence will have grown and he may reconsider.

I get why many might want an "experienced" manager with proven successes for next season but, in all seriousness, does any one genuinely think that such a manager could have achieved any better with this group of players than Morrison has done since he has taken over?

Mason did well at first so a manager needs to be judged over 20 odd games. Morrison is doing a good job but still the awful sideways and backward passing. That?s not the quality of player but the coaching evident since CC days, Morrison too loyal to certain players and what next Jed here next season FFS. 25K a week - legs gone - injury prone - but hey he?s a good Pro 😭😭

Big clear out and a fresh vision and no mistakes not learnt from the Big Dave appointment who overall his management career has been poor! Nice chap though!

[Omegstrat6]

Totally agree with you Bomber and a group in the pub at Blackburn all said the same. A complete clear out needed. I remember many gushing about Big Dave who was clueless overall in his managerial reign and the Port Vale supporters could not wait to see the back of him. Great guy though!

Skubala for me and a manager with a fresh vision who plays young classy players which is why Sunderland have been so successful.

Sule would be better than Heggebo as he?s got great quick feet. Just needs balls to play a youngster like some other managers. How can you say experience or lack of it - what has Heggebo done in recent matches? Nothing!

I was pleased to see Sule brought on last night, doubtless because we were creating openings and chances and, given Sule's recent goal scoring ability, Morrison clearly thought he would stand a better chance of converting them than our other forwards. That said, I doubt very much that Sule possesses the physicality of either Heggabo or Dike, for example, which is needed for other important aspects of the role such as hold up play.

It is abundantly clear that we lack quality in the final third and I agree that if we can continue to create opportunities then Sule should get more chances on the pitch to prove that he can convert them. I also think that Bostock should get his chances given the too consistently poor end products of Price. Would I start either ahead of more experienced players when we are in the midst of a relegation battle though? Certainly, I would like to see them brought on if the game was going our way and their pace and ability might break the deadlock and get us goals but given their inexperience at this level I wouldn't trust them to have the right qualities for a dog fight yet.

[On Balance]

If Morrison was so much a part of the problem with us under Corberan, Mowbray, Mason and Ramsay, then how come he has got an even more limited squad playing as they are now?

Very difficult to comment with too much accuracy without seeing what was happening in pre/ post match discussions and planning or being on the training ground but I'd be more inclined to blame the club's game model and desire to adhere to it and the previous incumbents than Morrison and the coaching staff for our previous poor performances. Poor recruitment hasn't helped either of course, nor the financial pressures that saw us sell Palmer, Heggem and Fellows.

Curtis Davies made the point that -assuming we do avoid relegation-next year will very much depend on the choices the club makes and monies available. Do we have the finances to purchase proven Championship players and engage a proven Championship manager to aim for play offs next season or do we see it as more of a long term project rebuild which might suit Morrison better? Moreover, does Mozza himself want the job? Prior to this, he didn't seem over keen to take it on permanently but if we survive and continue to improve as we have done over recent games then his own confidence will have grown and he may reconsider.



I get why many might want an "experienced" manager with proven successes for next season but, in all seriousness, does any one genuinely think that such a manager could have achieved any better with this group of players than Morrison has done since he has taken over?

Wise words Omeg. Where is all the money going to come from to have a wholesale clear out. Speaking to some fans last night most were minded to give Morrison the opportunity if, as you say, want the job.

Players will obviously go at the seasons end and we will need to replace wisely. As you say recruitment has not been a strong point for some time now.

There are some who constantly put players down and then do the same to the coaches. The squad is not huge and we do have some in it that perhaps are not up to getting us promoted automatically or even the playoffs.

What I do not see is the need for wholesale changes. What if those changes do not work, financially it would be a risk to make that choice.

We needed stability and that is what Morrison has provided us with to date. Careful planning will be required in the recruitment area, that however may be on hold or require a plan B if we find ourselves in the third tier (Lets hope not).

Patience is required right now, not panic in the hope of something near success. Success though need to be measured and expectations managed. Unfortunately many Baggies do not see that and crave instant success.

[baggiematt]

Some folk must watch a different team to me, to watch our players and think a different set of coaches gets them to play dynamic. Saying that a new tea lady might help.

[baggieal]

Some folk must watch a different team to me, to watch our players and think a different set of coaches gets them to play dynamic. Saying that a new tea lady might help.

But don?t you think people have different opinions Matt to you and me which is the beauty of football?

I welcome different views and respect them as seen last week in the Blackburn pub talking to a crowd whose views were clearly different person by person. These too are the people who spend s hit loads of cash going to the away games! My view on Heggebo is we were robbed but the next person might think he?s a budding Harry Kane. Each to their own.

[stargazer_1962]

At this point in time I would be happy for Jimmy to take the managers role next season.
We have just seen the failure to bring in a manager who can improve us in the appointments of Mowbray then Mason then Ramsey.
Thankfully Morrison has managed to steady the ship and hopefully avoid us dropping down a division.

Although next seaason we all want to be aiming for the play off's I would rather see a little stability over chancing our arm.
Who knows if we can find the ideal manager to achieve our aims but I suspect we will still be hampered by financial restrictions so would take a season of steadiness rather than rolling the dice once again.

[Omegstrat6]

At this point in time I would be happy for Jimmy to take the managers role next season.
We have just seen the failure to bring in a manager who can improve us in the appointments of Mowbray then Mason then Ramsey.
Thankfully Morrison has managed to steady the ship and hopefully avoid us dropping down a division.

Although next seaason we all want to be aiming for the play off's I would rather see a little stability over chancing our arm.
Who knows if we can find the ideal manager to achieve our aims but I suspect we will still be hampered by financial restrictions so would take a season of steadiness rather than rolling the dice once again.

How our financial situation pans out will be crucial. Glad to have retained an improving Diakite but we will need a decent replacement RB for the departing Imray (would love to retain him but that's wishful thinking), a creative midfielder and a proven goal scorer at minimum. We will lose the wage costs of Wallace, Dike, Grant and Maja (as well as O'Leary if we choose not to take out the extra years option) but won't benefit from any sell on payments which will leave us both short in squad options and short in terms of finances to bring new players in. This will make any talk of a "clear out" extremely difficult and, in any case, who would take some of our costly but underwhelming players off our hands?

Given our finances, I suspect that your season of "steadiness" might be closer to the mark than a big clear out and a push for promotion/ play offs-though given the nature of the Championship and the change in rules, the latter will remain a possibility.

Personally, I wouldn't mind this if it meant a considered rebuild and being able to utilise and develop our younger players such as Sule, Bostock and Whitwell alongside our more experienced players but smarter recruitment to replace our departing players will also be crucial. On that point, would anyone consider retaining Grant, for example, for a further year on a reduced contract given that our depth of squad will be greatly depleted when all our out of contract and on loan players depart?

[baggieal]

How our financial situation pans out will be crucial. Glad to have retained an improving Diakite but we will need a decent replacement RB for the departing Imray (would love to retain him but that's wishful thinking), a creative midfielder and a proven goal scorer at minimum. We will lose the wage costs of Wallace, Dike, Grant and Maja (as well as O'Leary if we choose not to take out the extra years option) but won't benefit from any sell on payments which will leave us both short in squad options and short in terms of finances to bring new players in. This will make any talk of a "clear out" extremely difficult and, in any case, who would take some of our costly but underwhelming players off our hands?

Given our finances, I suspect that your season of "steadiness" might be closer to the mark than a big clear out and a push for promotion/ play offs-though given the nature of the Championship and the change in rules, the latter will remain a possibility.

Personally, I wouldn't mind this if it meant a considered rebuild and being able to utilise and develop our younger players such as Sule, Bostock and Whitwell alongside our more experienced players but smarter recruitment to replace our departing players will also be crucial. On that point, would anyone consider retaining Grant, for example, for a further year on a reduced contract given that our depth of squad will be greatly depleted when all our out of contract and on loan players depart?

Good post Omeg and sensible. I like Grant but the end product is a bit like Price - poor! There is much better out there on his wages and can?t see him taking a wage drop so perhaps that answers the question.

A rebuild and the aim of play offs but mid table might be realistic. I hate to say it but if we played Wolves now and the 3rd from bottom coming down we will get hammered!