I Won?t Walk Away

[baggieal]

What a prize p rick Starmer is and a complete and utter narcissist. He still does not get it - the majority of the country hate him and the majority do not want thousands of illegal immigrants arriving. Whilst our own people are struggling like hell shame on this government spending billions on hotels, shared housing and benefits.

There?s so many hypocrites and liers out there - those that say refugees are welcome - well if they were on your doorstep roaming the streets would you and your family be happy? A big resounding NO!

The best thing for Labour is for Starmer and Reeves to stay on and they will get absolutely smashed in the next General Election. Will they care? Absolutely not and here lies the problem whilst the country slides down the pan even more!

[Omegstrat6]

What a prize p rick Starmer is and a complete and utter narcissist. He still does not get it - the majority of the country hate him and the majority do not want thousands of illegal immigrants arriving. Whilst our own people are struggling like hell shame on this government spending billions on hotels, shared housing and benefits.

There?s so many hypocrites and liers out there - those that say refugees are welcome - well if they were on your doorstep roaming the streets would you and your family be happy? A big resounding NO!

The best thing for Labour is for Starmer and Reeves to stay on and they will get absolutely smashed in the next General Election. Will they care? Absolutely not and here lies the problem whilst the country slides down the pan even more!

Whilst we may disagree on the details Al, it is clear that adding an additional 400,000 to this country's population every year is not sustainable and whilst used as a deflection by some, the levels of immigration are a very genuine concern. Labour won't begin to regain any of their heavy losses and the Greens won't progress very far until they concede this point and very publicly commit to doing something about it. The Conservatives say they will but have, of course, had 15 years where they have failed to do so and we have got to where we are now mostly under their watch.

My big concern, however, is that tackling immigration in itself -whilst it might ease some situations-won't solve the raft of long standing issues in the country and I don't see Farage, for example, as having the solutions to these.

At this point, however, that is all academic as, whether we like it or not, Labour will continue to serve their term. I'm no fan of Starmer either but I dread to think who the Labour Party faithful might vote in instead if he goes.😟

[WBA123]

What a prize p rick Starmer is and a complete and utter narcissist. He still does not get it - the majority of the country hate him and the majority do not want thousands of illegal immigrants arriving. Whilst our own people are struggling like hell shame on this government spending billions on hotels, shared housing and benefits.

There?s so many hypocrites and liers out there - those that say refugees are welcome - well if they were on your doorstep roaming the streets would you and your family be happy? A big resounding NO!

The best thing for Labour is for Starmer and Reeves to stay on and they will get absolutely smashed in the next General Election. Will they care? Absolutely not and here lies the problem whilst the country slides down the pan even more!

I'm not a huge fan of Starmer and I think he's got a fair few things wrong since being PM....but some of the stick he gets is so wrong I think. You said he's our worst PM ever, did you not see Boris Johnson and Liz Truss when they were in office?

I've just read that long term immigration and net immigration is down by about 400k people in the first year since Labour took over compared to the previous year of the Tories rule. Did you or anyone else know this?

The truth is, Reform are campaigning hard on the immigration line. And its like another Brexit situation, where people will happily vote to be poorer - for no material benefit to them.

And I'm not saying we should invite everyone into the country, I think we should have a sensible immigration policy. But the amount this issue sways voters is unbelievable. Because most people are gullible fools.

This country slides down the pan because the electorate is stupid and the political system we have is archaic and no longer fit for purpose.

[baggieal]

I'm not a huge fan of Starmer and I think he's got a fair few things wrong since being PM....but some of the stick he gets is so wrong I think. You said he's our worst PM ever, did you not see Boris Johnson and Liz Truss when they were in office?

I've just read that long term immigration and net immigration is down by about 400k people in the first year since Labour took over compared to the previous year of the Tories rule. Did you or anyone else know this?

The truth is, Reform are campaigning hard on the immigration line. And its like another Brexit situation, where people will happily vote to be poorer - for no material benefit to them.

And I'm not saying we should invite everyone into the country, I think we should have a sensible immigration policy. But the amount this issue sways voters is unbelievable. Because most people are gullible fools.

This country slides down the pan because the electorate is stupid and the political system we have is archaic and no longer fit for purpose.

The reason that nett migration is down to 400,000 in the last recorded year is due to hundreds of thousands of indigenous UK born people emigrating to get away from this s hit hole.

To admit you have just read? this figure shows how out of touch you are as this has been spoken about for months.

The number of low and non skilled immigrants coming in is absolutely massive.

We?ve got younger people and wealthy tax paying people leaving in huge numbers which brings the nett figure down to 400,000 which is still f ucking massive.

Have these illegals at the bottom of your road and then tell me there?s no issue for you and your partner. Different then! The lot should be deported immediately. They won?t go to Poland because they will get zilch and that?s what it?s all about. Benefits!!!!

I have never voted but clearly with Reform absolute smashing Labour there is a huge problem. Please do not respond with an uneducated reply that everyone who votes Reform are thick.

Starmer is an absolute embarrassment and should resign!

[WBA123]

The reason that nett migration is down to 400,000 in the last recorded year is due to hundreds of thousands of indigenous UK born people emigrating to get away from this s hit hole.

To admit you have just read? this figure shows how out of touch you are as this has been spoken about for months.

The number of low and non skilled immigrants coming in is absolutely massive.

We?ve got younger people and wealthy tax paying people leaving in huge numbers which brings the nett figure down to 400,000 which is still f ucking massive.

Have these illegals at the bottom of your road and then tell me there?s no issue for you and your partner. Different then! The lot should be deported immediately. They won?t go to Poland because they will get zilch and that?s what it?s all about. Benefits!!!!

I have never voted but clearly with Reform absolute smashing Labour there is a huge problem. Please do not respond with an uneducated reply that everyone who votes Reform are thick.

Starmer is an absolute embarrassment and should resign!

Reform voters are thick. Have you seen some of them being interviewed? A lot of them can't tell you a Reform policy, they just don't like immigrants.

And secondly, where are you getting your information from?

The ONS specifically says:

“The fall is driven by fewer non-EU+ nationals arriving for work- and study-related reasons and a continued, gradual increase in levels of emigration.”

The numbers back that up:

Immigration fell by over 400,000
Emigration only rose by about 43,000

So mathematically the reduction is overwhelmingly because arrivals collapsed and not because departures exploded.

I'm not sure if you can say I'm out of touch on an issue I care far less about you do on.

[baggieal]

Reform voters are thick. Have you seen some of them being interviewed? A lot of them can't tell you a Reform policy, they just don't like immigrants.

And secondly, where are you getting your information from?

The ONS specifically says:

“The fall is driven by fewer non-EU+ nationals arriving for work- and study-related reasons and a continued, gradual increase in levels of emigration.”

The numbers back that up:

Immigration fell by over 400,000
Emigration only rose by about 43,000

So mathematically the reduction is overwhelmingly because arrivals collapsed and not because departures exploded.

I'm not sure if you can say I'm out of touch on an issue I care far less about you do on.

Hold on a minute - you are saying or have said Reform voters are thick and those that voted Brexit are thick! If you truly mean that you?re the thick one!

There?s a lot of powerful business leaders who voted for Brexit or vote Reform and they will be far more intelligent and successful than you will ever be. I never wanted Brexit but even on this forum there are a few posters who voted for it and have professional qualifications!

Everyone to their own. Why would anybody like illegal immigrants when they are here for the freebies! Do they go to Poland and why not?

London is now a complete s hit hole with that idiot Khan and what must respectable tourists think when all these people were praying in Leicester Square? Why inflict this on others when there?s places of worship? Truly shocking!

[WBA123]

Hold on a minute - you are saying or have said Reform voters are thick and those that voted Brexit are thick! If you truly mean that you?re the thick one!

There?s a lot of powerful business leaders who voted for Brexit or vote Reform and they will be far more intelligent and successful than you will ever be. I never wanted Brexit but even on this forum there are a few posters who voted for it and have professional qualifications!

Everyone to their own. Why would anybody like illegal immigrants when they are here for the freebies! Do they go to Poland and why not?

London is now a complete s hit hole with that idiot Khan and what must respectable tourists think when all these people were praying in Leicester Square? Why inflict this on others when there?s places of worship? Truly shocking!

I agree, there are more intelligent and more successful people out there than myself who voted for Brexit and vote Reform. I didn't say every Brexit or Reform voter is thick, but if you are thick then you're more likely to have voted for them. That is just the demographics.

I'd say the main reason people don't go to Poland is because of the language, and they already have ties here. But again, if you look at the statistics, immigrants are likely no better off here than they are in any countries in western Europe.

As for London, it really isn't that bad...there are bad areas of course -but you can say the same for any city.

[baggieal]

I agree, there are more intelligent and more successful people out there than myself who voted for Brexit and vote Reform. I didn't say every Brexit or Reform voter is thick, but if you are thick then you're more likely to have voted for them. That is just the demographics.

I'd say the main reason people don't go to Poland is because of the language, and they already have ties here. But again, if you look at the statistics, immigrants are likely no better off here than they are in any countries in western Europe.

As for London, it really isn't that bad...there are bad areas of course -but you can say the same for any city.

It?s not because of the language FFS as most can?t speak English. It?s because of the freebies. Even in Spain where some of my family are Spanish - unless you have paid taxes into the system over 4 years you receive almost nothing for hand outs.

Would you or your wife and kids be happy along with that gobs hite Gary Neville with illegals on your doorstep and single men roaming around? No you would not so why should anyone wise and that?s a big reason for the Reform success! Detention camps with no freebies and deport after a rewrite of the ECHR stopping rich lawyers from exploiting the system!

[baggiematt]

It?s not because of the language FFS as most can?t speak English. It?s because of the freebies. Even in Spain where some of my family are Spanish - unless you have paid taxes into the system over 4 years you receive almost nothing for hand outs.

Would you or your wife and kids be happy along with that gobs hite Gary Neville with illegals on your doorstep and single men roaming around? No you would not so why should anyone wise and that?s a big reason for the Reform success! Detention camps with no freebies and deport after a rewrite of the ECHR stopping rich lawyers from exploiting the system!

It cant be that bad in Spain. They had the most illegal migrants in Europe last year!

I do think illegal migrants consume you though Al. You really are obsessed with the topic. Personally I think you have fell for the media crap where every crime an illegal migrant does gets front page attention. It’s been sensationalised to make it seem like a much bigger problem than it is.

Rich folk in charge of media companies do this and they prey on those gullible enough by telling you who to hate. They are in the same crowd as those who brought in migrants in the first place and took the majority of the wealth in the country.

I was reading about the Bolton rape gangs the other day, it was an awful read. You dont see much on it because they are white. Tommy Robinson isnt crying about it; he is sat in casinos spending the money he has grifted from fellow hate mongers. Another grifter might I add who couldnt care less if the country burnt to the ground.

Reality is unauthorised migrants has been going on for 10s of years. They just come through on boats now, before they flew here and stayed. This isnt a Starmer thing. It was Reforms Suella before that but you consent to vote her in.

I think Reform are a poor party. Their cabinet are full of ex tories from a failed government and their leader has factually made us poorer. For every outrage about labour expenses, Reform can raise you a bigger scandal. Farage still hasnt fessed up to the tax scandal on that Clacton house substantially bigger than Rayners tax avoidance and Starmers glasses!

[greyhorse]

What a prize p rick Starmer is and a complete and utter narcissist. He still does not get it - the majority of the country hate him and the majority do not want thousands of illegal immigrants arriving. Whilst our own people are struggling like hell shame on this government spending billions on hotels, shared housing and benefits.

There?s so many hypocrites and liers out there - those that say refugees are welcome - well if they were on your doorstep roaming the streets would you and your family be happy? A big resounding NO!

The best thing for Labour is for Starmer and Reeves to stay on and they will get absolutely smashed in the next General Election. Will they care? Absolutely not and here lies the problem whilst the country slides down the pan even more!

The biggest prized pric would be none other than the Dimfluencer BaggieAl. What a sad state of affairs. ?Oh i never vote, never will? yet has such an opinion on the politics in this country. I bet you were on the social media telling everyone to take a pen to the polling stations eh? Dimfluencer!

[baggieal]

It cant be that bad in Spain. They had the most illegal migrants in Europe last year!

I do think illegal migrants consume you though Al. You really are obsessed with the topic. Personally I think you have fell for the media crap where every crime an illegal migrant does gets front page attention. It’s been sensationalised to make it seem like a much bigger problem than it is.

Rich folk in charge of media companies do this and they prey on those gullible enough by telling you who to hate. They are in the same crowd as those who brought in migrants in the first place and took the majority of the wealth in the country.

I was reading about the Bolton rape gangs the other day, it was an awful read. You dont see much on it because they are white. Tommy Robinson isnt crying about it; he is sat in casinos spending the money he has grifted from fellow hate mongers. Another grifter might I add who couldnt care less if the country burnt to the ground.

Reality is unauthorised migrants has been going on for 10s of years. They just come through on boats now, before they flew here and stayed. This isnt a Starmer thing. It was Reforms Suella before that but you consent to vote her in.

I think Reform are a poor party. Their cabinet are full of ex tories from a failed government and their leader has factually made us poorer. For every outrage about labour expenses, Reform can raise you a bigger scandal. Farage still hasnt fessed up to the tax scandal on that Clacton house substantially bigger than Rayners tax avoidance and Starmers glasses!

All your opinion Matt but clearly not many feel like you judging by the way the votes went today.

In Spain apart from basic needs illegals get nothing just like residents unless they have paid into the system over a four year period, That?s the way it should be! The benefit culture in this country has gone crazy and in some cases it?s more financially rewarding to claim benefits than slog for the minimum wage. In London some ethnic minorities ie around 70% are on benefits. They should get nothing unless like Spain they pay into the system. Not many FFS would agree with that including very hard working legal migrants who pay their share of tax.

Why do you think many illegals don?t go to Poland? Please don?t insult me by saying the language as most who arrive can?t speak English!
No freebies and not welcome! In some EU countries the letterbox head gear is banned as it should be! A young girl can?t go to Dubai showing her knickers in a revealing mini skirt!

You do come across Matt as a Green supporter so perhaps a few bus loads of single men on your doorstep to share the love 😭

[baggiematt]

All your opinion Matt but clearly not many feel like you judging by the way the votes went today.

In Spain apart from basic needs illegals get nothing just like residents unless they have paid into the system over a four year period, That?s the way it should be! The benefit culture in this country has gone crazy and in some cases it?s more financially rewarding to claim benefits than slog for the minimum wage. In London some ethnic minorities ie around 70% are on benefits. They should get nothing unless like Spain they pay into the system. Not many FFS would agree with that including very hard working legal migrants who pay their share of tax.

Why do you think many illegals don?t go to Poland? Please don?t insult me by saying the language as most who arrive can?t speak English!
No freebies and not welcome! In some EU countries the letterbox head gear is banned as it should be! A young girl can?t go to Dubai showing her knickers in a revealing mini skirt!

You do come across Matt as a Green supporter so perhaps a few bus loads of single men on your doorstep to share the love 😭

Well clearly whatever Spains policy is, it is not doing a great job is it? Maybe it is the siestas and San Miguel attracting them. I dont blame them to be honest.

Not a green supporter at all Al. The amount of posts you put about Bostock on here, I thought that was your sort of thing.

[baggieal]

Well clearly whatever Spains policy is, it is not doing a great job is it? Maybe it is the siestas and San Miguel attracting them. I dont blame them to be honest.

Not a green supporter at all Al. The amount of posts you put about Bostock on here, I thought that was your sort of thing.

The socialist party in Spain will be toast as very hated and like Starmer they will be gone.

In terms of Bostock he?s got great potential but you were right Matt - he needs to go out on loan. As for Williams and Sule these are the two to watch,

Just watching Hull v Millwall and sickening in a way because it?s two managers who have done an excellent job. Not big spenders and most likely their player salaries will be less than ours on their bottom line.

[Albionic68]

Hello everyone. Genuinely don't mean to interrupt. I've just come back from the pub and I'm chilling in the back garden with a bottle of white wine whilst the wife's curled up on the settee chewing her lips and wondering where it all went wrong. Speed read this thread and just thought I'd say thanks very much for some genuine comedy gold. I know things are serious. I know the state of the country is serious. But I also know I've been p i ss ing myself laughing at some of the stuff on this thread. Thanks again. Or more appropriately...... CHEERS 🍻 😃 .

[baggiematt]

Hello everyone. Genuinely don't mean to interrupt. I've just come back from the pub and I'm chilling in the back garden with a bottle of white wine whilst the wife's curled up on the settee chewing her lips and wondering where it all went wrong. Speed read this thread and just thought I'd say thanks very much for some genuine comedy gold. I know things are serious. I know the state of the country is serious. But I also know I've been p i ss ing myself laughing at some of the stuff on this thread. Thanks again. Or more appropriately...... CHEERS 🍻 😃 .

Want us to carry on? The politics or the gay jokes? 😆