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    The on going story regarding the appeal against the excessively lenient sentence handed out to those young teenagers who raped -and filmed those rapes- of young girls is indicative of how a combination of failed parenting, the influence of social media, the weakening of authority amongst teachers and an over tolerance of behaviour by our legal system is wreaking havoc in our society. Hopefully the appeal will go through quickly and those young girls get some justice for the trauma they have endured and the bravery they have shown.

    Yes, you can rightly point out the heinous actions of some Afghan immigrants but anyone who is in teaching or retail or in customer facing roles will tell you about the increasing lack of respect and appalling behaviour amongst too many young people. Why? Because they know they can get away with it and because no one says "No" to them, not parents, not teachers, not police and the legal system won't punish them appropriately whether they are guilty of rape, criminal damage, physical abuse or theft. In recent holiday periods, gangs of young teenagers have swarmed shopping areas and public spaces across the country driven by social media messages but anyone who dare tackles them is dealt with whereas the perpetrators as "children" get let off.

    I recently confronted 4 little scrotes in store who Security were afraid to physically throw out. I regressed to the mind set I had many years ago when dealing with the like. I told them they had been asked nicely to leave but now I was going to physically remove them If they did not go of their own accord. I said to 3 of them that their ring leader was a just a little boy who thought he could be a gob ****e because he thought that no-one would be allowed to touch him. I put him right in this regard as I didn't care what the police thought or his dad or his big brother and that if he didn't leave now, I would physically remove him. They soon cottoned on, his followers looking sheepish and him still trying to mouth off but wary that I might still lump him one. All left.

    Fellow staff and customers may have applauded my actions but, if reported, I would doubtless face disciplinary action. I totally get company's having policies about not allowing staff to put themselves in danger but this attitude-along with vastly decreased staffing levels and the sad demise of Police Retail Theft Units-only encourages this behaviour. I'm getting old now and certainly would not risk some of the confrontations and "citizen arrests" I have made in the past but such behaviour and lack of respect or decency really angers me.

    The increasing levels of misogyny among young males should worry all parents of young girls -but parents themselves should not abdicate their responsibilities and need to tackle such behaviour and attitudes in their own children if they see it.

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    Originally posted by Omegstrat6 View Post
    The on going story regarding the appeal against the excessively lenient sentence handed out to those young teenagers who raped -and filmed those rapes- of young girls is indicative of how a combination of failed parenting, the influence of social media, the weakening of authority amongst teachers and an over tolerance of behaviour by our legal system is wreaking havoc in our society. Hopefully the appeal will go through quickly and those young girls get some justice for the trauma they have endured and the bravery they have shown.

    Yes, you can rightly point out the heinous actions of some Afghan immigrants but anyone who is in teaching or retail or in customer facing roles will tell you about the increasing lack of respect and appalling behaviour amongst too many young people. Why? Because they know they can get away with it and because no one says "No" to them, not parents, not teachers, not police and the legal system won't punish them appropriately whether they are guilty of rape, criminal damage, physical abuse or theft. In recent holiday periods, gangs of young teenagers have swarmed shopping areas and public spaces across the country driven by social media messages but anyone who dare tackles them is dealt with whereas the perpetrators as "children" get let off.

    I recently confronted 4 little scrotes in store who Security were afraid to physically throw out. I regressed to the mind set I had many years ago when dealing with the like. I told them they had been asked nicely to leave but now I was going to physically remove them If they did not go of their own accord. I said to 3 of them that their ring leader was a just a little boy who thought he could be a gob ****e because he thought that no-one would be allowed to touch him. I put him right in this regard as I didn't care what the police thought or his dad or his big brother and that if he didn't leave now, I would physically remove him. They soon cottoned on, his followers looking sheepish and him still trying to mouth off but wary that I might still lump him one. All left.

    Fellow staff and customers may have applauded my actions but, if reported, I would doubtless face disciplinary action. I totally get company's having policies about not allowing staff to put themselves in danger but this attitude-along with vastly decreased staffing levels and the sad demise of Police Retail Theft Units-only encourages this behaviour. I'm getting old now and certainly would not risk some of the confrontations and "citizen arrests" I have made in the past but such behaviour and lack of respect or decency really angers me.

    The increasing levels of misogyny among young males should worry all parents of young girls -but parents themselves should not abdicate their responsibilities and need to tackle such behaviour and attitudes in their own children if they see it.
    Such a good post Omeg and agree with you completely. Law and order has completely broken down. How must those police be feeling when those Asian thugs broke that police girls nose at Manchester airport and got away with it?

    For me 100% a child is the product of the parent and should a child cause criminal damage then the parents should be held to account with footing the bill. I have three kids - two went to university and got good jobs and the third finishing her A Levels and on her predictions been offered top uni?s like Kings and UCL. I am so proud and like to think it?s how they were brought up and taking opportunities through sheer graft.

    The moral of the story is - you don?t shop lift in Dubai if you like your hands. There will be no soccer violence in the USA this Summer because the Police will batter anyone causing trouble. I blame the government and pathetic out of touch Judges who many should retire!

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