Another Starmer Own Goal

[baggieal]

Absolutely ridiculous to even appeal the Bell Hotel case and overturn it. Another huge own goal for Starmer and more moving away from Labour.

With the s ex attacks in this town you can understand the frustrations running high. I wouldn?t want my daughter walking around that town. Many of the protesters are women and certainly far from Far Right!

Absolutely crazy decision

[Omegstrat6]

Absolutely ridiculous to even appeal the Bell Hotel case and overturn it. Another huge own goal for Starmer and more moving away from Labour.

With the s ex attacks in this town you can understand the frustrations running high. I wouldn?t want my daughter walking around that town. Many of the protesters are women and certainly far from Far Right!

Absolutely crazy decision

Like I posted in a previous thread Al, he is like a blind man surrounded by garden rakes just waiting to continually walk into mostly avoidable situations because of his failure to read the room properly.

Tbh, in this case, I get why he wanted to over turn it because not doing so would inevitably set off a chain reaction and these asylum seekers have to be housed somewhere. The problem is that he doesn't listen. Why could he not at least directly address concerns, ramp up security and ensure better controls in these hotels if there is nowhere else to put them?


Clearly the system is broken and-as you say-spending this amount of money to house/feed asylum seekers whilst the number of homeless increases (along with the number of long term empty properties) cannot be right. Charity should begin at home. (Mind you, the same could be said of how much we spend on those in prison when too many working families still have to rely on food banks or free school meals).

Of course, the majority of asylum seekers just want a safe haven and somewhere to work and start a new life. Don't think you can blame them too much for trying to earn some money from working illegally (as they cannot work legally while being processed) but there have been too many instances where individuals have either engaged in criminal activities or been found guilty of ***ual assault. This plays right into the hands of the right but it doesn't mean that these things are not happening and are understandably causing genuine concern.

Aside from the obvious need to find more effective ways of breaking the trafficking gangs that facilitate the problem in the first place, there should also clearly be far stricter controls around the housing of such illegal immigrants/ asylum seekers and the processing system needs to be much faster. Unfortunately, all this is far more easily said than done.

[Bombers right foot]

Traitors the lot of them, no regard for the British people

[soulman101]

The Judge who read out the judgement , for the past 28 years he has been a member of the Labour party and The Fabian Society .

[TipperaryBaggie]

The Appeal Court judge is a former treasurer of the Society of Labour Lawyers and chaired the left leaning Fabian Society which is affiliated to the Labour Party. A massive own goal by Smarmer and his cronies.

[baggieal]

Judge Bean is 71 FFS. Shocking decision when there?s been a number of s exual assaults in the town. As Omeg says quite rightly it?s the Tool Makers Son?s failure to gauge public reaction.

I fear for the way this country is turning out with youngsters.

[soulman101]

Cooper and Ed Balls are on a train holiday around Europe .

[regis80]

Farage will clean sweep the next election with the way things are going. If I was Farage i?d put down as a pledge now.. that ?they will deport 100,000* or so illegal immigrants?
(*whatever the figure is since labour came into power).

So that since then, it doesn?t matter if you?ve been granted asylum since that time, you?ll be out when they come into power. Just think the message it will send? I know this will cost us our own human rights.. which i?ve not checked what that would be.

The bigger crisis we should be talking about is how private equity is taking over the UK, literally. What?s everyone?s thoughts on that?

[soulman101]

Farage will clean sweep the next election with the way things are going. If I was Farage i?d put down as a pledge now.. that ?they will deport 100,000* or so illegal immigrants?
(*whatever the figure is since labour came into power).

So that since then, it doesn?t matter if you?ve been granted asylum since that time, you?ll be out when they come into power. Just think the message it will send? I know this will cost us our own human rights.. which i?ve not checked what that would be.

The bigger crisis we should be talking about is how private equity is taking over the UK, literally. What?s everyone?s thoughts on that?

We need to keep an eye on Black Rock

[baggieal]

Farage will clean sweep the next election with the way things are going. If I was Farage i?d put down as a pledge now.. that ?they will deport 100,000* or so illegal immigrants?
(*whatever the figure is since labour came into power).

So that since then, it doesn?t matter if you?ve been granted asylum since that time, you?ll be out when they come into power. Just think the message it will send? I know this will cost us our own human rights.. which i?ve not checked what that would be.

The bigger crisis we should be talking about is how private equity is taking over the UK, literally. What?s everyone?s thoughts on that?

Farage will sweep the board as the public have had enough! Laughing stock of a country!

[Omegstrat6]

Farage will clean sweep the next election with the way things are going. If I was Farage i?d put down as a pledge now.. that ?they will deport 100,000* or so illegal immigrants?
(*whatever the figure is since labour came into power).

So that since then, it doesn?t matter if you?ve been granted asylum since that time, you?ll be out when they come into power. Just think the message it will send? I know this will cost us our own human rights.. which i?ve not checked what that would be.

The bigger crisis we should be talking about is how private equity is taking over the UK, literally. What?s everyone?s thoughts on that?

Don't like Farage, he is yet another self serving snake oil merchant but given the state of the Conservative Party I can see Reform picking up a substantial number of votes next election unless things change drastically. I personally don't think 16 year olds should vote anyway but it's yet another own goal from Starmer-in days gone by you might have expected Labour to benefit from this lowering of the voting age but at present it's more likely to be Reform.

As for your last comment regarding private equity companies-totally agree. Their fingers are increasingly everywhere and their only goal is to make money regardless of the consequences.

[regis80]

And anybody know who funds the reform party?
Well apparently it?s these Private Equity companies. Careful what you wish for. The UK sure feels like the administrators are in already with the amount of asset stripping going on already.

[Omegstrat6]

And anybody know who funds the reform party?
Well apparently it?s these Private Equity companies. Careful what you wish for. The UK sure feels like the administrators are in already with the amount of asset stripping going on already.

Indeed. Reform claim that a lot of their funding comes from grass roots support and ex Tory donors (which is apparently correct) but the Open Democracy site also points out that alongside donations from ultra wealthy individuals, the Reform party also receives considerable financial support from overseas backers with links to tax havens and financial services. The latter account for more than 10% of donations which may not seem massive but is certainly over represented in comparison to our other political parties.

Of course all parties receive donations from individuals or companies with vested interests seeking political influence but this should be a concern.

[Leicesterbaggie]

I have always been a Tory voter but when Labour won the last election and given the poor performance of the previous Tory party, I was prepared to give them a chance. How misguided was I? This present government has to be the worst in my living memory, and that is a long time. Starmer is so weak and has made so many u-turns that he must be giddy. Add to this we have got Angela Raynor as deputy Prime Minister. To be honest, I would not put her in charge of a dogs home, let alone a country!
If we had a general election tomorrow I would not have a clue who to vote for. A sad state of affairs for British politics!

[baggieal]

I have always been a Tory voter but when Labour won the last election and given the poor performance of the previous Tory party, I was prepared to give them a chance. How misguided was I? This present government has to be the worst in my living memory, and that is a long time. Starmer is so weak and has made so many u-turns that he must be giddy. Add to this we have got Angela Raynor as deputy Prime Minister. To be honest, I would not put her in charge of a dogs home, let alone a country!
If we had a general election tomorrow I would not have a clue who to vote for. A sad state of affairs for British politics!

Couldn?t agree more Leicester which is why I have never voted. Starmer or Trump - if you had to choose I would sadly go for Trump! That says it all!!!