Prince Andrew

[baggieal]

I do get the feeling a bombshell will soon be dropped regarding this individual.

Could it get worse? At least he?s still in the Lodge but then again Sarah?s there 😭😭😭

[Dubbag]

I do get the feeling a bombshell will soon be dropped regarding this individual.

Could it get worse? At least he?s still in the Lodge but then again Sarah?s there 😭😭😭

It does appear that they are prepping the ground for something more to come......

[Omegstrat6]

Horrible entitled individual. Luckily for him, because the Orange One is likely too tied up with him himself, any further damaging evidence that may be revealed by the Epstein Files doesn't look likely to see the light of day for a while yet.

[Albionic68]

I'm getting the word.......... NONCE!

[Albionic68]

It does appear that they are prepping the ground for something more to come......

Talking of prepping I imagine Andrew's Heatherdown prep school and latterly Gordonstoun have a lot answer for. Shaping young minds for generations. Shudders to self and goes for a carbolic soap scrub bath.

[Albionic68]

Horrible entitled individual..............

From what I've read online about his general behaviours towards household staff, serving members of the armed forces, protection details and members of the public the bloke is a consummate s hithead.

In hindsight it's hard to believe I once swore an Oath of Allegiance to the Queen AND her successors. This quivering jellified sack of s hit provides definite grounds for an annulment of oath in my very honest opinion Omeg 😉.

[baggieal]

I bet Fergie is sucking his toes like she did with the bald one!

[boinggazmic]

I knew a few lads on the invincible when Andrew was serving on there,they had highest of opinions of him as he flew on a few Exocet decoy sorties..I also met a jump’s instructor at brize Norton in 83 on my jumps course who had a different opinion of him..such a fall from then I guess…he deserves what’s coming if these reports are true.

[bordering]

two sides to eve

I knew a few lads on the invincible when Andrew was serving on there,they had highest of opinions of him as he flew on a few Exocet decoy sorties..I also met a jump’s instructor at brize Norton in 83 on my jumps course who had a different opinion of him..such a fall from then I guess…he deserves what’s coming if these reports are true.

I expect an avalanche of criticism but there are always2 sides to every story.

I am not a fan of Andrew - I think he was badly advised- he should have admitted he had *** with this Giuffre woman .

He had *** with her , she was 17 - age of consent in UK is 16

- She did not say to him no I don't want to............ or help me I am a trafficked *** slave or she could have got out of their clutches for 5 minutes and say help me to a passer by a copper but she did not- she was in airports a few times not short of security staff.

She was getting first class travel , good food , holidays gifts. Maybe she was being trafficked but not by Andrew.

Maybe just maybe she thought on reflection having *** with a prince did not seem that bad after all. She was 17 - in the UK the law says she is old enough to decide.

It seems strange that the story explodes after Epstein is dead and more info comes out after she is dead .

I think Andrew is a fool . badly advised but if he had owned the *** act with the Giuffre then you might tut-tut but it would be an act of *** between consenting adults.
Still tut-tutting - have you seen the quality of good looking women who hang round footballers - I suppose that's because they are nice , well mannered , considerate young men and not because of the cash and the glamour.

I expect the avalanche of criticism but there are 2 sides to every story and Giuffre had many chances to bail out.

[baggieal]

I expect an avalanche of criticism but there are always2 sides to every story.

I am not a fan of Andrew - I think he was badly advised- he should have admitted he had *** with this Giuffre woman .

He had *** with her , she was 17 - age of consent in UK is 16

- She did not say to him no I don't want to............ or help me I am a trafficked *** slave or she could have got out of their clutches for 5 minutes and say help me to a passer by a copper but she did not- she was in airports a few times not short of security staff.

She was getting first class travel , good food , holidays gifts. Maybe she was being trafficked but not by Andrew.

Maybe just maybe she thought on reflection having *** with a prince did not seem that bad after all. She was 17 - in the UK the law says she is old enough to decide.

It seems strange that the story explodes after Epstein is dead and more info comes out after she is dead .

I think Andrew is a fool . badly advised but if he had owned the *** act with the Giuffre then you might tut-tut but it would be an act of *** between consenting adults.
Still tut-tutting - have you seen the quality of good looking women who hang round footballers - I suppose that's because they are nice , well mannered , considerate young men and not because of the cash and the glamour.

I expect the avalanche of criticism but there are 2 sides to every story and Giuffre had many chances to bail out.

Completely disagree Bordering. The age of consent in the USA can be up to 18 and usually 21 for alcohol in many States. The girl was trafficked and at that age most likely was brainwashed by a bunch of vile perverts.

With privilege comes responsibility and not being in the news for the wrong reasons and in this case not to bring an institution into scandalous headlines. Even in this country most guys of his age ( at the time ) would be considered a complete pervert for screwing a 17 year old girl. Most girls are still in school until 18 in the sixth form. They are school kids!

How must his two royal daughters brought up with responsibilities and privilege have felt with daddy screwing a child a fraction older than them? Disgusted I would imagine.

Harry too is another one who sold his story about the Queen for profit then wonders why everyone detests him.

Horrible both of them and Andrew should rot where he deserves. Not even one misjudgement either! A complete and utter perv and obviously prostituted whether she could have escaped or not!

Even in this country yes the age of consent is 16 but until 18 a child is NOT an adult and n most cases still at school!

[Leicesterbaggie]

You are quite correct Bordering, there are two sides to every story. Don?t get me wrong, I am no fan of Andrew, in fact the complete opposite. However, he has not been found guilty of any crime, yet! As you also say, if she was that upset and frightened, surely she could have removed herself from the situation.

Do I believe that Andrew was involved with her? In all probability, yes. I also believe that many other high profile figures, including Trump, were involved in Epstein?s revolting pursuits. It?s interesting that the files have not been released. I wonder why? As for Andrew, he should do what Edward Vlll did, go into exile abroad. He could join Harry!

[baggieal]

Put it this way - you wouldn?t want Andrew living near a school where school girls are 17!

His own two princess daughters who weren?t much older at the same time than this girl must be absolutely disgusted if he did have a s exual relationship with a girl who was clearly prostituted!

Can you imagine a 41 year old ( Andrew?s age at the time approx ) hand in hand with a school girl of 17 now! They would rightly be classed as a nonce!

[bordering]

Completely disagree Bordering. The age of consent in the USA can be up to 18 and usually 21 for alcohol in many States. The girl was trafficked and at that age most likely was brainwashed by a bunch of vile perverts.

With privilege comes responsibility and not being in the news for the wrong reasons and in this case not to bring an institution into scandalous headlines. Even in this country most guys of his age ( at the time ) would be considered a complete pervert for screwing a 17 year old girl. Most girls are still in school until 18 in the sixth form. They are school kids!

How must his two royal daughters brought up with responsibilities and privilege have felt with daddy screwing a child a fraction older than them? Disgusted I would imagine.

Harry too is another one who sold his story about the Queen for profit then wonders why everyone detests him.

Horrible both of them and Andrew should rot where he deserves. Not even one misjudgement either! A complete and utter perv and obviously prostituted whether she could have escaped or not!

Even in this country yes the age of consent is 16 but until 18 a child is NOT an adult and n most cases still at school!

Then you are advocating a chance in the age of consent but the realities are different
This is a UK survey-----
The results confirmed the fairly consistent finding that the average age of first hetero***ual intercourse is 16 years. Nearly one third of both men and women reported that they first had hetero***ual intercourse before they turned 16 (Mercer et al, 2013).

I understand your position and know that it will be based on objective evaluation and not for example on an anti monarchy or just envy of a a privileged and stupid prince

[baggieal]

I expect an avalanche of criticism but there are always2 sides to every story.

I am not a fan of Andrew - I think he was badly advised- he should have admitted he had *** with this Giuffre woman .

He had *** with her , she was 17 - age of consent in UK is 16

- She did not say to him no I don't want to............ or help me I am a trafficked *** slave or she could have got out of their clutches for 5 minutes and say help me to a passer by a copper but she did not- she was in airports a few times not short of security staff.

She was getting first class travel , good food , holidays gifts. Maybe she was being trafficked but not by Andrew.

Maybe just maybe she thought on reflection having *** with a prince did not seem that bad after all. She was 17 - in the UK the law says she is old enough to decide.

It seems strange that the story explodes after Epstein is dead and more info comes out after she is dead .

I think Andrew is a fool . badly advised but if he had owned the *** act with the Giuffre then you might tut-tut but it would be an act of *** between consenting adults.
Still tut-tutting - have you seen the quality of good looking women who hang round footballers - I suppose that's because they are nice , well mannered , considerate young men and not because of the cash and the glamour.

I expect the avalanche of criticism but there are 2 sides to every story and Giuffre had many chances to bail out.

Then you are advocating a chance in the age of consent but the realities are different
This is a UK survey-----
The results confirmed the fairly consistent finding that the average age of first hetero***ual intercourse is 16 years. Nearly one third of both men and women reported that they first had hetero***ual intercourse before they turned 16 (Mercer et al, 2013).

I understand your position and know that it will be based on objective evaluation and not for example on an anti monarchy or just envy of a a privileged and stupid prince

Correct but it?s different with two young kids but it was the fact of a grown man in his forties with a school girl age child. That makes him a pervert if allegations are true

[Albionic68]

I expect an avalanche of criticism but there are always2 sides to every story.

I am not a fan of Andrew - I think he was badly advised- he should have admitted he had *** with this Giuffre woman .

He had *** with her , she was 17 - age of consent in UK is 16

- She did not say to him no I don't want to............ or help me I am a trafficked *** slave or she could have got out of their clutches for 5 minutes and say help me to a passer by a copper but she did not- she was in airports a few times not short of security staff.

She was getting first class travel , good food , holidays gifts. Maybe she was being trafficked but not by Andrew.

Maybe just maybe she thought on reflection having *** with a prince did not seem that bad after all. She was 17 - in the UK the law says she is old enough to decide.

It seems strange that the story explodes after Epstein is dead and more info comes out after she is dead .

I think Andrew is a fool . badly advised but if he had owned the *** act with the Giuffre then you might tut-tut but it would be an act of *** between consenting adults.
Still tut-tutting - have you seen the quality of good looking women who hang round footballers - I suppose that's because they are nice , well mannered , considerate young men and not because of the cash and the glamour.

I expect the avalanche of criticism but there are 2 sides to every story and Giuffre had many chances to bail out.

There are numerous tangents to each and every narrative and personal experience. With that in mind I am most definitely not going to criticise you or your words here.

Having only been able to speed read your post however I imagine you're in the very fortunate position of never having been groomed, coerced or made to feel less than your genuine worth.

I have no idea of her backstory or hopes and dreams for the future when younger but I can't imagine they involved getting humped and passed around by numerous swinging dicks.

As for Andrew, Epstein and Maxwell I don't think it's beyond the wit of man or any other pronoun to imagine their up bringings led them to a certain sense of power and entitlement.