What price Dan Crowley?

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Originally Posted by Notts78

I agree? some of the stuff on this thread is mind boggling. Stuff about ego, all footballers have an ego.
DC is comfortably our best player IMO, and I include JJ. He?s a player that will play through the lines, take the ball in tight spaces and will often get us playing. Without a player like him, JJ becomes nullified as the play becomes more pedestrian.
He?s a L2 player so will of course make mistakes.

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Is he...................?

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Originally Posted by kill_the_drum

Why do some of our so called supporters constantly have to do this.
We think he might leave so start to tarnish him.
In his time at Notts his performances have ranged from good to unplayable. His assists and goal return has been very good and he?ll be in league 1 next season either with or without us.
What has he ever done to suggest he has an ?ego.?
I haven?t witnessed anything. Not a single thing. And where does this perception of him not being part of the team come from? Again, no evidence.
I say with absolute certainty that we don?t win 3 on the bounce over Christmas without him. I was ill over Christmas so watched the MK and Cheltenham games on TV, opting to listen to the away commentary. In both games the commentators constantly stated that everything runs through Crowley, and it absolutely does.
He holds onto the ball because he has the skill to lose a player with ease and give us the overload. And he does it time and time again.
The fans that criticise him for being a show pony are the same as the ones that criticised the likes of Nemane for not trying to take on three players every time he got the ball.
Just have some class. Dan Crowley is a brilliant player at this level and we all know it. If you don?t, then you don?t know the first thing about football.

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Absolutely agree with this.

As I said, I do think that there are occasions when he could pass it quicker, but he is a brilliant player.

The one again getting criticised on the match-thread though we won today. Fortunately the Sky commentator who was very good could see what he does / tries to do and mentioned the positive effect he has.

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Originally Posted by magpie_mania

Absolutely agree with this.

As I said, I do think that there are occasions when he could pass it quicker, but he is a brilliant player.

The one again getting criticised on the match-thread though we won today. Fortunately the Sky commentator who was very good could see what he does / tries to do and mentioned the positive effect he has.

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Absolutely, there was a reason we lacked some of our creativity today after he went off.

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Originally Posted by kill_the_drum

Why do some of our so called supporters constantly have to do this.
We think he might leave so start to tarnish him.
In his time at Notts his performances have ranged from good to unplayable. His assists and goal return has been very good and he?ll be in league 1 next season either with or without us.
What has he ever done to suggest he has an ?ego.?
I haven?t witnessed anything. Not a single thing. And where does this perception of him not being part of the team come from? Again, no evidence.
I say with absolute certainty that we don?t win 3 on the bounce over Christmas without him. I was ill over Christmas so watched the MK and Cheltenham games on TV, opting to listen to the away commentary. In both games the commentators constantly stated that everything runs through Crowley, and it absolutely does.
He holds onto the ball because he has the skill to lose a player with ease and give us the overload. And he does it time and time again.
The fans that criticise him for being a show pony are the same as the ones that criticised the likes of Nemane for not trying to take on three players every time he got the ball.
Just have some class. Dan Crowley is a brilliant player at this level and we all know it. If you don?t, then you don?t know the first thing about football.

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I completely agree. Crowley is a very talented and creative football player and is technically very good on the ball with his feet and can turn shield and protect the ball with such fantastic skill. When he is on the ball he is able to draw opposition players in but then manipulate his way out of tight areas and space and then release the ball into the space or areas that have been created. That one pass can then take two players around him or even three out of the game.

If Crowley leaves in the summer when out of contract like Ruben and Wootton so be it. It's a job and a career and a short one at that. You can't begrudge players or managers wanting to play at the highest level possible and there is no reason to be bitter or scorned about it. We should be thankful that we have had players like Crowley, Langstaff, Wootton, Rodrigues in recent years who have gone on to play at a higher level and who want to progress in the game but who have also helped take the club upwards as well. It certainly beats having the left overs that nobody else want's and has been's and never will be's that we used to have when we were floating around League One and Two previously.

Plus the radar found Crowley after RR so there reason to be optimistic that the radar will be able to find a suitable successor preferably in the summer when more players and better deals will be available. Maybe if we get promoted there maybe a chance Crowley might sign a contract? Unless he does a RR and goes up two levels to the championship? What will be will be so let's enjoy Crowley and the positive impact he has on the team while he is here which fingers crossed will be until the summer.

I reckon DC probably perfectly played out a lot of the back and forth of this thread in the game today.

His ball for Austin in the build up to the goal was superb. Perfectly timed and waited. At home, we will dominate the ball and territory. Often, we have bemoaned a lack of penetration but it is the moments like that that really count. Even earlier in the move, when we broke down the left, he, Martin, Bedeau and McGoldrick kept the ball brilliantly, which enabled DC to recycle it centrally and then get himself in the position to feed Austin. Bar McGoldrick, no one else has the ability in our squad to do that.

He pressed well too, often being the central forward, with Jatta drifting over to the right. His ability to carry and keep the ball too was delightful. At one point (from a Swindon corner I think) he travelled half the length of the pitch, down the right hand side. He was eventually boxed in by three defenders but was able to keep the ball, and recycle possession. That sort of stuff is invaluable. Pretty much every other player would have got that far down and tried to get a throw in or been dispossessed.

Early in the second half he became a little ponderous, generally centrally and near the half way line and was dispossessed on two or three occasions. These led to breakaways, but thankfully Swindon had zero about them going forward. They are the moments where he needs to improve. I do not think he is being greedy. He is waiting for the right movement ahead of him. Swindon were obviously told to get tighter and that worked for a brief spell.

There was a moment about midway through the second half where the play was tight and a bit scrappy over by the Pavis until the ball broke to Crowley who was on the periphery of it. In a flash, we were 20 yards higher up the pitch, creating a chance. A short while after he was brought down twice in quick succession in and around the D. Again, chances created.

Not to mention some of his one touch stuff with runners around him throughout the game.

Not for one second do I think today was DCs best game for Notts, nor did he run the show. He drifted a bit and lost the ball a few times, but he is a genuine talent who is now playing in his best position.

I would much rather have a risk taking 10, than a safe 10. He will win us far more points than he will lose us.

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Originally Posted by LeftPeg_Pie

I reckon DC probably perfectly played out a lot of the back and forth of this thread in the game today.

His ball for Austin in the build up to the goal was superb. Perfectly timed and waited. At home, we will dominate the ball and territory. Often, we have bemoaned a lack of penetration but it is the moments like that that really count. Even earlier in the move, when we broke down the left, he, Martin, Bedeau and McGoldrick kept the ball brilliantly, which enabled DC to recycle it centrally and then get himself in the position to feed Austin. Bar McGoldrick, no one else has the ability in our squad to do that.

He pressed well too, often being the central forward, with Jatta drifting over to the right. His ability to carry and keep the ball too was delightful. At one point (from a Swindon corner I think) he travelled half the length of the pitch, down the right hand side. He was eventually boxed in by three defenders but was able to keep the ball, and recycle possession. That sort of stuff is invaluable. Pretty much every other player would have got that far down and tried to get a throw in or been dispossessed.

Early in the second half he became a little ponderous, generally centrally and near the half way line and was dispossessed on two or three occasions. These led to breakaways, but thankfully Swindon had zero about them going forward. They are the moments where he needs to improve. I do not think he is being greedy. He is waiting for the right movement ahead of him. Swindon were obviously told to get tighter and that worked for a brief spell.

There was a moment about midway through the second half where the play was tight and a bit scrappy over by the Pavis until the ball broke to Crowley who was on the periphery of it. In a flash, we were 20 yards higher up the pitch, creating a chance. A short while after he was brought down twice in quick succession in and around the D. Again, chances created.

Not to mention some of his one touch stuff with runners around him throughout the game.

Not for one second do I think today was DCs best game for Notts, nor did he run the show. He drifted a bit and lost the ball a few times, but he is a genuine talent who is now playing in his best position.

I would much rather have a risk taking 10, than a safe 10. He will win us far more points than he will lose us.

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Totally agree with all of that, couldn’t have said it better, although I would have spelt weighted correctly ���� (<< these are ROTFL emojis in case you think I’m being a serious spelling policeman).

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Originally Posted by LeftPeg_Pie

I reckon DC probably perfectly played out a lot of the back and forth of this thread in the game today.

His ball for Austin in the build up to the goal was superb. Perfectly timed and waited. At home, we will dominate the ball and territory. Often, we have bemoaned a lack of penetration but it is the moments like that that really count. Even earlier in the move, when we broke down the left, he, Martin, Bedeau and McGoldrick kept the ball brilliantly, which enabled DC to recycle it centrally and then get himself in the position to feed Austin. Bar McGoldrick, no one else has the ability in our squad to do that.

He pressed well too, often being the central forward, with Jatta drifting over to the right. His ability to carry and keep the ball too was delightful. At one point (from a Swindon corner I think) he travelled half the length of the pitch, down the right hand side. He was eventually boxed in by three defenders but was able to keep the ball, and recycle possession. That sort of stuff is invaluable. Pretty much every other player would have got that far down and tried to get a throw in or been dispossessed.

Early in the second half he became a little ponderous, generally centrally and near the half way line and was dispossessed on two or three occasions. These led to breakaways, but thankfully Swindon had zero about them going forward. They are the moments where he needs to improve. I do not think he is being greedy. He is waiting for the right movement ahead of him. Swindon were obviously told to get tighter and that worked for a brief spell.

There was a moment about midway through the second half where the play was tight and a bit scrappy over by the Pavis until the ball broke to Crowley who was on the periphery of it. In a flash, we were 20 yards higher up the pitch, creating a chance. A short while after he was brought down twice in quick succession in and around the D. Again, chances created.

Not to mention some of his one touch stuff with runners around him throughout the game.

Not for one second do I think today was DCs best game for Notts, nor did he run the show. He drifted a bit and lost the ball a few times, but he is a genuine talent who is now playing in his best position.

I would much rather have a risk taking 10, than a safe 10. He will win us far more points than he will lose us.

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DC seemed more muted today - clinical passes and drawing fouls in their D aside. A very different player than in the Walsall 2nd half. imo this is a really sound read of his value to the side that isn't just an emotional response to a few meh passages of play. Needs to be said.

Excellent left peg, I can barely remember my pre match burger and hot chocolate

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Originally Posted by LeftPeg_Pie

I reckon DC probably perfectly played out a lot of the back and forth of this thread in the game today.

His ball for Austin in the build up to the goal was superb. Perfectly timed and waited. At home, we will dominate the ball and territory. Often, we have bemoaned a lack of penetration but it is the moments like that that really count. Even earlier in the move, when we broke down the left, he, Martin, Bedeau and McGoldrick kept the ball brilliantly, which enabled DC to recycle it centrally and then get himself in the position to feed Austin. Bar McGoldrick, no one else has the ability in our squad to do that.

He pressed well too, often being the central forward, with Jatta drifting over to the right. His ability to carry and keep the ball too was delightful. At one point (from a Swindon corner I think) he travelled half the length of the pitch, down the right hand side. He was eventually boxed in by three defenders but was able to keep the ball, and recycle possession. That sort of stuff is invaluable. Pretty much every other player would have got that far down and tried to get a throw in or been dispossessed.

Early in the second half he became a little ponderous, generally centrally and near the half way line and was dispossessed on two or three occasions. These led to breakaways, but thankfully Swindon had zero about them going forward. They are the moments where he needs to improve. I do not think he is being greedy. He is waiting for the right movement ahead of him. Swindon were obviously told to get tighter and that worked for a brief spell.

There was a moment about midway through the second half where the play was tight and a bit scrappy over by the Pavis until the ball broke to Crowley who was on the periphery of it. In a flash, we were 20 yards higher up the pitch, creating a chance. A short while after he was brought down twice in quick succession in and around the D. Again, chances created.

Not to mention some of his one touch stuff with runners around him throughout the game.

Not for one second do I think today was DCs best game for Notts, nor did he run the show. He drifted a bit and lost the ball a few times, but he is a genuine talent who is now playing in his best position.

I would much rather have a risk taking 10, than a safe 10. He will win us far more points than he will lose us.

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A very very enjoyable read. Excellent summary.

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Originally Posted by CamPie

Totally agree with all of that, couldn?t have said it better, although I would have spelt weighted correctly ���� (<< these are ROTFL emojis in case you think I?m being a serious spelling policeman).

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Haha I would never think that. Although word choice and spelling are a real source of written pride so that is frustrating 😂