OT - Boris Johnson and the Freedom of Speech

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Originally Posted by ramAnag

Apologies Gunteryy...I suffered the forum equivalent of locking myself out.
Strange that you only seem to come on here to challenge my politics and write nothing about football...anyway...I don’t know about me ‘sidestepping’ things. I simply choose to take little notice of sources where objectivity plays second fiddle to ‘agenda’. You on the other hand seem to have palpably failed to back up/source your allegations about Muslims, almost certainly because your 70% figure is total and dangerous nonsense.

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Life can be so unfair, RamanAnag, what with you locked out and TR locked in ;) You're too sensitive about my challenging your views, I just

happened to notice an interesting thread and took part in it. I happen to be an avid supporter of Barnsley and in the unlikely event of someone mentioning them I'll be happy to join in.

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Originally Posted by GUNTERYY36

Life can be so unfair, RamanAnag, what with you locked out and TR locked in ;) You're too sensitive about my challenging your views, I just

happened to notice an interesting thread and took part in it. I happen to be an avid supporter of Barnsley and in the unlikely event of someone mentioning them I'll be happy to join in.

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Not sure about your life being ‘unfair’ comment or how I am being ‘sensitive’, Gunterry.
I’ve often spoken with one of the Barnsley fans on here...nice chap...called Acido...can’t say you seem terribly prolific over there on Tykes Mad though.
I suppose I just find it quite odd when people come from nowhere to make overtly controversial political comments, especially when they are of the ‘70% of Muslims think’ variety and then prove completely unable to substantiate them.

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Originally Posted by ramAnag

Not sure about your life being ‘unfair’ comment or how I am being ‘sensitive’, Gunterry.
I’ve often spoken with one of the Barnsley fans on here...nice chap...called Acido...can’t say you seem terribly prolific over there on Tykes Mad though.
I suppose I just find it quite odd when people come from nowhere to make overtly controversial political comments, especially when they are of the ‘70% of Muslims think’ variety and then prove completely unable to substantiate them.

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It was just a throwaway comment, ramAnag, don't worry about it. Life's unfair for everyone. It's true I'm not a prolific poster there but I'm sure I'll receive an invitation some time. Acido's a nice bloke, not a bad word against anyone, but then 70% of all Barnsley fans are. ;)

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Originally Posted by GUNTERYY36

It was just a throwaway comment, ramAnag, don't worry about it. Life's unfair for everyone. It's true I'm not a prolific poster there but I'm sure I'll receive an invitation some time. Acido's a nice bloke, not a bad word against anyone, but then 70% of all Barnsley fans are. ;)

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That’s the difference Gunteryy, some comments are indeed just ‘throwaway’ while others, like the ones you made about Muslim women and 70% of Muslims, just need throwing away with the rest of the trash.

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Originally Posted by ramAnag

That’s the difference Gunteryy, some comments are indeed just ‘throwaway’ while others, like the ones you made about Muslim women and 70% of Muslims, just need throwing away with the rest of the trash.

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Ouch.

I'll try not to throw away this comment too far. Western Muslim women who choose not to dress modestly ignore the teachings of the Holy Book they claim to observe. The obedient ones show they are, presumably, content to be oppressed by men. Those that haven't read the book might as well dress like an astronaut.

I said stupid. Okay, misinformed, feeble minded, uneducated, take your pick.

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Originally Posted by GUNTERYY36

Ouch.

I'll try not to throw away this comment too far. Western Muslim women who choose not to dress modestly ignore the teachings of the Holy Book they claim to observe. The obedient ones show they are, presumably, content to be oppressed by men. Those that haven't read the book might as well dress like an astronaut.

I said stupid. Okay, misinformed, feeble minded, uneducated, take your pick.

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I’ve made my choice about your comments thanks. Does seem strange how you’ve never come back at all about your 70% claim though.

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Originally Posted by ramAnag

I’ve made my choice about your comments thanks. Does seem strange how you’ve never come back at all about your 70% claim though.

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Interestingly, the same survey revealed that more than half of muslims think that homo***uality should be illegal in Britain and 23 per cent of Muslims want Sharia to replace British law in certain parts of the country.

Apparently, 39 per cent of Muslims think that their wives should always obey their husbands and 31 per cent think it was acceptable to have more than one wife.

Still, as these figures are so implausible I won't elaborate upon them. I will say, however, that your earlier comment that you find such comments 'offensive' quite revealing.

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Originally Posted by GUNTERYY36

Interestingly, the same survey revealed that more than half of muslims think that homo***uality should be illegal in Britain and 23 per cent of Muslims want Sharia to replace British law in certain parts of the country.

Apparently, 39 per cent of Muslims think that their wives should always obey their husbands and 31 per cent think it was acceptable to have more than one wife.

Still, as these figures are so implausible I won't elaborate upon them. I will say, however, that your earlier comment that you find such comments 'offensive' quite revealing.

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I haven’t actually said anything at all about ‘such comments’...largely because you haven’t made them before.
Neither do I find them particularly implausible...I have little time for any organised religion...I’d guess a similar percentage of Catholics and many white working class male adults would feel the same about homo***uality and their wives ‘obeying’ them and your figures actually suggest that a huge majority of Muslims (77%) don’t want Sharia Law so I’m really not sure what your point is.

To be clear...you have made two suggestions that I object to. Firstly that ‘Muslim women are stupid’ and secondly that ‘70% of Muslims’ would conceal the truth about a proposed terrorist attack.

While the first statement is itself too stupid to warrant further discussion, the second is the one you have repeatedly failed to substantiate or reveal a source for. Unfortunately people, apparently such as yourself, who support the EDL and claim that Tommy Robinson should be knighted are all too willing to make such claims in an effort to divert from the truth and cause divisiveness within our society.

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Originally Posted by ramAnag

I haven’t actually said anything at all about ‘such comments’...largely because you haven’t made them before.
Neither do I find them particularly implausible...I have little time for any organised religion...I’d guess a similar percentage of Catholics and many white working class male adults would feel the same about homo***uality and their wives ‘obeying’ them and your figures actually suggest that a huge majority of Muslims (77%) don’t want Sharia Law so I’m really not sure what your point is.

To be clear...you have made two suggestions that I object to. Firstly that ‘Muslim women are stupid’ and secondly that ‘70% of Muslims’ would conceal the truth about a proposed terrorist attack.

While the first statement is itself too stupid to warrant further discussion, the second is the one you have repeatedly failed to substantiate or reveal a source for. Unfortunately people, apparently such as yourself, who support the EDL and claim that Tommy Robinson should be knighted are all too willing to make such claims in an effort to divert from the truth and cause divisiveness within our society.

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Where do I say I support the EDL? I don't. You should be careful with such accusations.

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Originally Posted by GUNTERYY36

Where do I say I support the EDL? I don't. You should be careful with such accusations.

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He doesn't say you do support the EDL. What he says is "apparently such as yourself". He appears to think you may be at least sympathetic to the EDL based on remarks made in this thread. What you say and the way you say it leads others to make assumptions which is why rA uses the word "apparently".