OT - Boris Johnson and the Freedom of Speech

[ramAnag]

It was just a throwaway comment, ramAnag, don't worry about it. Life's unfair for everyone. It's true I'm not a prolific poster there but I'm sure I'll receive an invitation some time. Acido's a nice bloke, not a bad word against anyone, but then 70% of all Barnsley fans are.

That’s the difference Gunteryy, some comments are indeed just ‘throwaway’ while others, like the ones you made about Muslim women and 70% of Muslims, just need throwing away with the rest of the trash.

[GUNTERYY36]

That’s the difference Gunteryy, some comments are indeed just ‘throwaway’ while others, like the ones you made about Muslim women and 70% of Muslims, just need throwing away with the rest of the trash.

Ouch.

I'll try not to throw away this comment too far. Western Muslim women who choose not to dress modestly ignore the teachings of the Holy Book they claim to observe. The obedient ones show they are, presumably, content to be oppressed by men. Those that haven't read the book might as well dress like an astronaut.

I said stupid. Okay, misinformed, feeble minded, uneducated, take your pick.

[ramAnag]

Ouch.

I'll try not to throw away this comment too far. Western Muslim women who choose not to dress modestly ignore the teachings of the Holy Book they claim to observe. The obedient ones show they are, presumably, content to be oppressed by men. Those that haven't read the book might as well dress like an astronaut.

I said stupid. Okay, misinformed, feeble minded, uneducated, take your pick.

I’ve made my choice about your comments thanks. Does seem strange how you’ve never come back at all about your 70% claim though.

[GUNTERYY36]

I’ve made my choice about your comments thanks. Does seem strange how you’ve never come back at all about your 70% claim though.

Interestingly, the same survey revealed that more than half of muslims think that homo***uality should be illegal in Britain and 23 per cent of Muslims want Sharia to replace British law in certain parts of the country.

Apparently, 39 per cent of Muslims think that their wives should always obey their husbands and 31 per cent think it was acceptable to have more than one wife.

Still, as these figures are so implausible I won't elaborate upon them. I will say, however, that your earlier comment that you find such comments 'offensive' quite revealing.

[ramAnag]

Interestingly, the same survey revealed that more than half of muslims think that homo***uality should be illegal in Britain and 23 per cent of Muslims want Sharia to replace British law in certain parts of the country.

Apparently, 39 per cent of Muslims think that their wives should always obey their husbands and 31 per cent think it was acceptable to have more than one wife.

Still, as these figures are so implausible I won't elaborate upon them. I will say, however, that your earlier comment that you find such comments 'offensive' quite revealing.

I haven’t actually said anything at all about ‘such comments’...largely because you haven’t made them before.
Neither do I find them particularly implausible...I have little time for any organised religion...I’d guess a similar percentage of Catholics and many white working class male adults would feel the same about homo***uality and their wives ‘obeying’ them and your figures actually suggest that a huge majority of Muslims (77%) don’t want Sharia Law so I’m really not sure what your point is.

To be clear...you have made two suggestions that I object to. Firstly that ‘Muslim women are stupid’ and secondly that ‘70% of Muslims’ would conceal the truth about a proposed terrorist attack.

While the first statement is itself too stupid to warrant further discussion, the second is the one you have repeatedly failed to substantiate or reveal a source for. Unfortunately people, apparently such as yourself, who support the EDL and claim that Tommy Robinson should be knighted are all too willing to make such claims in an effort to divert from the truth and cause divisiveness within our society.

[GUNTERYY36]

I haven’t actually said anything at all about ‘such comments’...largely because you haven’t made them before.
Neither do I find them particularly implausible...I have little time for any organised religion...I’d guess a similar percentage of Catholics and many white working class male adults would feel the same about homo***uality and their wives ‘obeying’ them and your figures actually suggest that a huge majority of Muslims (77%) don’t want Sharia Law so I’m really not sure what your point is.

To be clear...you have made two suggestions that I object to. Firstly that ‘Muslim women are stupid’ and secondly that ‘70% of Muslims’ would conceal the truth about a proposed terrorist attack.

While the first statement is itself too stupid to warrant further discussion, the second is the one you have repeatedly failed to substantiate or reveal a source for. Unfortunately people, apparently such as yourself, who support the EDL and claim that Tommy Robinson should be knighted are all too willing to make such claims in an effort to divert from the truth and cause divisiveness within our society.

Where do I say I support the EDL? I don't. You should be careful with such accusations.

[MadAmster]

Where do I say I support the EDL? I don't. You should be careful with such accusations.

He doesn't say you do support the EDL. What he says is "apparently such as yourself". He appears to think you may be at least sympathetic to the EDL based on remarks made in this thread. What you say and the way you say it leads others to make assumptions which is why rA uses the word "apparently".

[ramAnag]

Where do I say I support the EDL? I don't. You should be careful with such accusations.

I really don’t think I need to be ‘careful’ Gunteryy.
As MA correctly points out, the word ‘apparently’ indicates a probability, not any claim to fact and in any case...on 13th August you clearly stated that you felt Tommy Robinson to be deserving of a knighthood.
Along with conveying every appearance of being a racist thug, Tommy Robinson is the co-founder of the EDL. One imagines that you believe it is his political beliefs and actions that would entitle him to the title of ‘Sir’ - rather than his low level criminal activities - and thus it is not unreasonable to suppose that the EDL holds some attractions for you.
Feel free to carry on arguing if you wish but please don’t try and become threatening.