O/T:- Media Bias

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Originally Posted by keldsyke

Exactly, my stance too, I just don't understand how people think it will be better with anyone else? If I remember rightly when the Tories took over didn't Liam Byrne leave a hand written note saying there was no money left? Be careful what you wish for.

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The letter was a joke, if a stupid one. And yes, I’m sorry, but the UK was a better country under New Labour - for all its issues - than under any government since. Things worked, investment was made. Some of that had significant issues (PFI needed a lot more thought) and of course there was Iraq - albeit the Tories were even more enthusiastic about that than Labour was. And to come to the end of the term right after a global financial crisis made a change of leadership pretty inevitable.

Austerity and the inequality it brought with it strangled the life out of the UK. I have hope Starmer will be able to shift the conversation, eventually, but looking from the outside, England has never seemed so small.

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Originally Posted by Magpies1959

OchPie how do you know the country has no interest in voting for them.

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Because in opinion polling they barely get more than the Greens, and still well under the Liberal Democrats.

Because in the local council elections they averaged 6% where they stood.

Because they came in behind the Greens in the two by elections they stood in this year.

It isn’t rocket science.

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Originally Posted by OchPie

Because in opinion polling they barely get more than the Greens, and still well under the Liberal Democrats.

Because in the local council elections they averaged 6% where they stood.

Because they came in behind the Greens in the two by elections they stood in this year.

It isn’t rocket science.

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And if that doesn't sink in, Reform UK are 500/1 to win the next election.

Only 1 in 20 voters wants the sort of reform they are offering.

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Originally Posted by OchPie

The letter was a joke, if a stupid one. And yes, I’m sorry, but the UK was a better country under New Labour - for all its issues - than under any government since. Things worked, investment was made. Some of that had significant issues (PFI needed a lot more thought) and of course there was Iraq - albeit the Tories were even more enthusiastic about that than Labour was. And to come to the end of the term right after a global financial crisis made a change of leadership pretty inevitable.

Austerity and the inequality it brought with it strangled the life out of the UK. I have hope Starmer will be able to shift the conversation, eventually, but looking from the outside, England has never seemed so small.

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You like others need to start their messages with ‘In my opinion’

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Originally Posted by Magpies1959

OchPie how do you know the country has no interest in voting for them. I think more and more people are waking up to the fact that both Labour and The Conservatives do not have the interests of this country at heart, and that nothing will get better under their rule, so they might well just think f*ck it, lets give Reform a go. They would obviously get into power through a general election, how else would it happen, as for the last part of your post, I think you need to take a wee bit more water with whatever you have been drinking, or go back to the normal ciggies.

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You seem to be treating it very lightly. A bit like Notts playing in the Tinpot Trophy and losing 4-0 with a couple of minutes to go. Then throwing on a youngster up front and saying, 'Well he can't be any worse than the others are, let's give him a go'

Except it isn't like that - it is the country at stake.

Just had a look at the Reform manifesto. Pipedreams I'm afraid.

One thing is that they will reduce the basic rate of tax to zero for all patient facing staff in the NHS for 3 years. That might keep them happy - but there would just be massive industrial upheaval across the rest of the public sector.

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Originally Posted by keldsyke

You like others need to start their messages with ‘In my opinion’

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I assumed that that was a given, including from your posts.

There's a factual basis for every statement I made, though.

I think the Reform manifesto is very strong. I realise it would take a miracle for them to be elected, but it is our only hope of getting out of this nightmare.
People who have differing views are being shut down, for nothing. They are trying their best to get rid of GB News which love em or loathe em it is scary.

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Originally Posted by Magpies1959

People who have differing views are being shut down, for nothing. .

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Originally Posted by Magpies1959

I think the Reform manifesto is very strong. I realise it would take a miracle for them to be elected, but it is our only hope of getting out of this nightmare.
People who have differing views are being shut down, for nothing. They are trying their best to get rid of GB News which love em or loathe em it is scary.

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I think 'they' just want GB News to follow the same regulations as other broadcasters.

That is absolutely rubbish Woody, you only have to see the members of Ofcom to see how biased they are.
Why was Jo Brand not banned/clamped down in for saying she wished acid had been thrown at Nigel Farage. Also Miriam Margoyyles faced no Ofcom investigation after wishing that Boris Johnson would have died from Covid. Lovely people I am sure.
Wake up and smell the coffee. When the government left or right can do as they wish, unchallenged, you might be wishing for a GB News type opposition to it all.
There are non so blind as those that cannot see.