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Originally Posted by DBDU

100% Spot On .. Lets not deflect from who is in the wrong here and its NOT the player .

Initially his momentum takes him over the hoarding at which point if you watch the footage he isn't even looking at the crowd , he is looking for the ball.

There's no excuse for the clown who shoved him to do what he did nor the wee mink stood throwing his pie at him either.

Totally embarrassing for the club especially when the Tam was making such a big deal of condemning opposition fans only a few weeks ago .

Also indivertibly this incident gets Butcher off the hook imo ..

He did a pretty cowardly act to get himself sent off and if the ref does his job properly and doesn't send Ojo off then that match could have easily went the other way with us down to 10 playing against 11 .

He is the captain but asixde from that what he actually did is totally unacceptable .

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Agree with all of this except the part about the ref. He did do his job properly in sending Ojo off. Players simply cannot encroach the crowd, be it to celebrate or to square up to a fan. It's a yellow card all day long by the letter of the law.

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Originally Posted by tHeArAb

Agree with all of this except the part about the ref. He did do his job properly in sending Ojo off. Players simply cannot encroach the crowd, be it to celebrate or to square up to a fan. It's a yellow card all day long by the letter of the law.

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Absolutely correct. What was good for Pawlett v St J is good for Ojo.

Can criticise the player without defending the fan. 100% the fan is in the wrong and nobody should argue otherwise.

Ojo though still had a choice. He chose to run back up the stairs to confront him after the push. Sympathy at being put in that situation....absolutely BUT his decision was unprofessional and merited a yellow card. Actions after the game being investigated as they should be, but again he had a choice.

I am regularly assaulted at work - physical, verbal and increasingly frequently spat on. If I react, I will be sacked. Yes I am not caught up in an atmosphere such as football but the point is regardless of job/situation you have individual responsibility for your actions.

Both the fan and Ojo have to take that individual responsibility. Deflecting any blame from Ojo, such is the wider narrative in the press, is in my view completely wrong.

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Originally Posted by tHeArAb

Agree with all of this except the part about the ref. He did do his job properly in sending Ojo off. Players simply cannot encroach the crowd, be it to celebrate or to square up to a fan. It's a yellow card all day long by the letter of the law.

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But that's the point .. his momentum took him beyond the field of play .. he wasn't in any way looking to get involved with the crowd and as i said if you look at the footage hes not even looking at the crowd .

I feel heartfelt sorry for Funso Ojo.
Thankfully he's a mature player (30-y-o) with the experience of over 300 games in Belgium, England & Scotland.
Hopefully he'll be able to handle this but he must be wondering what it's all about.

As a Dundee United supporter the incident embarrasses me.

His second ascent of the stairs, after the push, had nothing to do with momentum.....in fact, he had to overcome his backwards momentum to do it.

That action was 100% his choice and what ultimately cost him his card.

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Originally Posted by Dreamsof83

His second ascent of the stairs, after the push, had nothing to do with momentum.....in fact, he had to overcome his backwards momentum to do it.

That action was 100% his choice and what ultimately cost him his card.

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Exactly this.

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Originally Posted by tHeArAb

He was just trying to retrieve the ball? I don't see what was wrong with that given we had about four ball boys for the entire pitch.

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I didn't see him even attempt to pick up the ball.

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Originally Posted by Chick A Saw

There was no running at the crowd though. Ojo made a run, nudged past Fuchs and his momentum took him over the barrier and to the steps. Nugget stepped in and the rest is history!

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The hoardings are meant to collapse on impact and even if it didn't he could have fallen over as almost every other player does.

He showed skills useful in the Grand National, so that's something the sheepies can bet on next year...

The fan has had a book thrown at him, with another on tge way.

Hopefully Ojo will too, should he be convicted. What's on the pitch is almost never prosecuted, but off the pitch he can't hide from what he's alleged to have done. Whatever that is, I don't know.