Change in disciplinary punishments

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Originally Posted by roger_ramjet

Whit: small bit, tiny amount? Cannot conceptualise its use above.

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Indeed, and thus describes himself to a T (or tea in his lingo). He wants referees to be like him.

And I have to agree with him about Clattenburg making drastic decisions, he always tends to make drastic decisions, although I fail to see how that makes him the best referee. Rather the opposite. Referees are not there to make drastic decisions that effect the outcome of games, they are there to ensure the games flows and the rules are applied uniformly and fairly. And certainly not to make drastic decisions.
But I suppose when some one talks about lacking complacency being an attribute and 0-0s being wins, then it's no surprise he favours drastic decision making as the hallmark of a good referee. Every village has its idiot, I suppose.

(PS: Roger, I think we should let the global thingy slide for a bit, since his return, he's trying his darnest to provide us with untold amounts of humour with the daftest possible explanations, all at his expense. Never has a user sacrificed so much for the benefit of others. At least until we tire of him)

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Originally Posted by DerbyDaDream

Clattenburg was officiating a match in Saudi Arabia between Al Feiha and Al-Fateh on Wednesday when the Adhan sounded around the King Salman Sport City Stadium from nearby mosques. He has earned widespread praise from football fans in the country.

The game was into the fifth minute of extra time when he halted the action with the teams level at 1-1.

When the match resumed, Al Feiha scored their second goal in the 118th minute to reach the quarter-finals.

Way to go Mark... now that is a top decision making, thinking ahead as always.

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And what is your point exactly?
You ever heard of EXTRA-TIME?
Teams play 2 extra halves of 15 minutes each. A total of 120 mins excluding injury time.
It's not forbidden to thus score in the 118th minute in EXTRA-TIME. It's a NORMAL occurrence.
He halted the game, he then resumed the game from where he stopped until the routine expiry of extra-time.
1 of those teams went on to score a goal in the normal amount of time for extra-time.
Both teams are from Saudi Arabia a Muslim country, both would accept a short stoppage for the call to prayer. If you did some fact checking, you'd realise it's a common occurrence there.

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Originally Posted by Romanis

Indeed, and thus describes himself to a T (or tea in his lingo). He wants referees to be like him.

And I have to agree with him about Clattenburg making drastic decisions, he always tends to make drastic decisions, although I fail to see how that makes him the best referee. Rather the opposite. Referees are not there to make drastic decisions that effect the outcome of games, they are there to ensure the games flows and the rules are applied uniformly and fairly. And certainly not to make drastic decisions.
But I suppose when some one talks about lacking complacency being an attribute and 0-0s being wins, then it's no surprise he favours drastic decision making as the hallmark of a good referee. Every village has its idiot, I suppose.

(PS: Roger, I think we should let the global thingy slide for a bit, since his return, he's trying his darnest to provide us with untold amounts of humour with the daftest possible explanations, all at his expense. Never has a user sacrificed so much for the benefit of others. At least until we tire of him)

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“Referees are not there to make drastic decisions” Romanis they are there to make every decision possible count and make sure the game goes accordingly.

Keep up the bigotry really working out for you so far.

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Originally Posted by Romanis

And what is your point exactly?
You ever heard of EXTRA-TIME?
Teams play 2 extra halves of 15 minutes each. A total of 120 mins excluding injury time.
It's not forbidden to thus score in the 118th minute in EXTRA-TIME. It's a NORMAL occurrence.
He halted the game, he then resumed the game from where he stopped until the routine expiry of extra-time.
1 of those teams went on to score a goal in the normal amount of time for extra-time.
Both teams are from Saudi Arabia a Muslim country, both would accept a short stoppage for the call to prayer. If you did some fact checking, you'd realise it's a common occurrence there.

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It’s a common call to stop what you doing and make a call to prayer but it isn’t a normality in football in Saudi Arabia and that’s why the fans are praising Clattenburg because he could of carried on the game and ignored it but he stopped it and obeyed the laws of their religion.

To return to the topic...yet again!
I didn’t think that was ‘tough tackling’ on Sane, Rob, I thought it was assault that could easily have led to a broken leg.
A certain red card in my book.
Unfortunately divers like Sterling make the ref’s job harder.
Tackling is part of a physical game but those that try and con officials into believing there was intent to create serious injury are as culpable as the wannabe ‘hard men’.
I’d quite like to see ‘sin bins’ introduced as they are in rugby. In last night’s RL there was a little bit of ‘handbags’ following one tackle and the referee sent the main protagonist to the ‘bin’ for ten minutes. At least that way the team that the offence takes place against are the ones that benefit which might give some food for thought.

So now we know what makes a good ref.... he is culturally aware and makes drastic decisions

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Originally Posted by DerbyDaDream

It’s a common call to stop what you doing and make a call to prayer but it isn’t a normality in football in Saudi Arabia and that’s why the fans are praising Clattenburg because he could of carried on the game and ignored it but he stopped it and obeyed the laws of their religion.

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This is getting hilarious! ;)

Never mind I'll answer both in this reply.
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“Referees are not there to make drastic decisions” Romanis they are there to make every decision possible count and make sure the game goes accordingly.
Which is exactly what I said you dumbkorf!!
I know you're thick, didn't realise it was that bad. You contradicted yourself there. You said he made a drastic decision, then go on to say he must ensure the game goes on accordingly and make proper decisions. Either he's supposed to ensure the game goes on smoothly or you want him to do something drastic, which is the opposite!


Keep up the bigotry really working out for you so far.
Do you understand the word? If you say something smart, I'll concur, but just because you go spouting rubbish and get taken down for the rubbish you spout, that isn't bigotry. That's facts.

And now to your latest reply.

Do you fail to understand what you typed and what meaning you were conveying? What did you type?

The game was into the fifth minute of extra time when he halted the action with the teams level at 1-1.

When the match resumed, Al Feiha scored their second goal in the 118th minute to reach the quarter-finals.

Now don't try to wriggle out of this with a pathetic attempt to disguise the fact that you were trying to say, he added on time?
If it were not so, why did you mention that Al Feiha went on to score the 118th minute?

If you were going to mention the stoppage for the Azan, you could have simply typed, he stopped the game for the Azan and thereafter resumed play from where he left. No reason to mention that 1 team scored a winner.

But I don't blame you. You post so much drivel and have a hard time understanding facts, that it's not surprising you don't really understand what you're typing either.

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Originally Posted by ramAnag

I didn’t think that was ‘tough tackling’ on Sane, Rob, I thought it was assault that could easily have led to a broken leg.
A certain red card in my book.
Unfortunately divers like Sterling make the ref’s job harder.
Tackling is part of a physical game but those that try and con officials into believing there was intent to create serious injury are as culpable as the wannabe ‘hard men’.
I’d quite like to see ‘sin bins’ introduced as they are in rugby. In last night’s RL there was a little bit of ‘handbags’ following one tackle and the referee sent the main protagonist to the ‘bin’ for ten minutes. At least that way the team that the offence takes place against are the ones that benefit which might give some food for thought.

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Agree 100% with bringing in sin bin. Maybe have 10 and 20 minite options for tiers of severity and, like ice hockey, the sinbin penalty ends if a goal is concede by the short handed team.

BUT what happens if the goalkeeper is sin binned? Do we also introduce temporary substitutes or would the offending side effectively lose 2 substititions to bring the sub gk on and then off?

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Originally Posted by Romanis

This is getting hilarious! ;)

Never mind I'll answer both in this reply.
First:

“Referees are not there to make drastic decisions” Romanis they are there to make every decision possible count and make sure the game goes accordingly.
Which is exactly what I said you dumbkorf!!
I know you're thick, didn't realise it was that bad. You contradicted yourself there. You said he made a drastic decision, then go on to say he must ensure the game goes on accordingly and make proper decisions. Either he's supposed to ensure the game goes on smoothly or you want him to do something drastic, which is the opposite!


Keep up the bigotry really working out for you so far.
Do you understand the word? If you say something smart, I'll concur, but just because you go spouting rubbish and get taken down for the rubbish you spout, that isn't bigotry. That's facts.

And now to your latest reply.

Do you fail to understand what you typed and what meaning you were conveying? What did you type?

The game was into the fifth minute of extra time when he halted the action with the teams level at 1-1.

When the match resumed, Al Feiha scored their second goal in the 118th minute to reach the quarter-finals.

Now don't try to wriggle out of this with a pathetic attempt to disguise the fact that you were trying to say, he added on time?
If it were not so, why did you mention that Al Feiha went on to score the 118th minute?

If you were going to mention the stoppage for the Azan, you could have simply typed, he stopped the game for the Azan and thereafter resumed play from where he left. No reason to mention that 1 team scored a winner.

But I don't blame you. You post so much drivel and have a hard time understanding facts, that it's not surprising you don't really understand what you're typing either.

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Didn’t understand a word you just spoke about, could you repeat all that for better clarification.

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Originally Posted by ramAnag

To return to the topic...yet again!
I didn’t think that was ‘tough tackling’ on Sane, Rob, I thought it was assault that could easily have led to a broken leg.
A certain red card in my book.
Unfortunately divers like Sterling make the ref’s job harder.
Tackling is part of a physical game but those that try and con officials into believing there was intent to create serious injury are as culpable as the wannabe ‘hard men’.
I’d quite like to see ‘sin bins’ introduced as they are in rugby. In last night’s RL there was a little bit of ‘handbags’ following one tackle and the referee sent the main protagonist to the ‘bin’ for ten minutes. At least that way the team that the offence takes place against are the ones that benefit which might give some food for thought.

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Sorry for the off topic, but the hilarity made it impossible not to weigh in.

I'm afraid sin bins don't work in football as it does in rugby. Being a man light in rugby can have huge implications, given that you need to cover all angles of the field to prevent a try. 1 or 2 man short leaves a huge gap, especially for strong opponents like the 8 nations and the Southern Hemisphere giants.

In football, being a man light, especially for 10 minutes won't make much difference. The team penalised simply doesn't attack anymore and puts everyone behind the ball. It's worse if they are leading or drawing, to avoid defeat or getting the win, they simply stop playing. Of course sometimes it might work, when you have a total mismatch, say Barcelona playing Las Palmas. But by and large, it doesn't. Worse if it's the giants that are a man light. A team like Man Utd would simply close shop against a team like West Brom. 10 men, 1-0 up, they don't need to attack no more.