Time for Independence ?

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Originally Posted by seeyazander

Yes they did well to get a referendum in the first place, but in my opinion the whole vote was rigged from the start, it was a case of if you resided in Scotland you got a vote no matter your nationality, however in the EU referendum I think I'm correct in saying that only British nationals got the opportunity to vote for stay or leaving the EU.
I think that if the Independence referendum had been for Scots only then we would have been on our own.

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It was an absolute disgrace, but you've got it the wrong way round.

As tax paying residents in Scotland , the English were and should have been allowed a vote.

The fact that the Poles were not allowed to vote in the EU referendum is an appalling example of how the English regard what they class as foreigners .

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Originally Posted by donsdaft

It was an absolute disgrace, but you've got it the wrong way round.

As tax paying residents in Scotland , the English were and should have been allowed a vote.

The fact that the Poles were not allowed to vote in the EU referendum is an appalling example of how the English regard what they class as foreigners .

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I wonder how many EU nationals residing in Scotland voted no to independence because they were worried about EU membership.

This Westminster government is a rule onto themselves move the goalposts regardless to suit their needs and to keep Scotland the cash cow they throw out figures about Scotland that are not true .

They don't have anyone above them checking the figures they release like you and myself .
But yet folk still vote for the union regardless I scratch my heed .

How weak can we really be. Whilst another country takes the pea.

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Originally Posted by seeyazander

Yes they did well to get a referendum in the first place, but in my opinion the whole vote was rigged from the start, it was a case of if you resided in Scotland you got a vote no matter your nationality, however in the EU referendum I think I'm correct in saying that only British nationals got the opportunity to vote for stay or leaving the EU.
I think that if the Independence referendum had been for Scots only then we would have been on our own.

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Define 'Scots only' please?

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Originally Posted by StandfreeFM

Define 'Scots only' please?

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As in the EU referendum it was only British nationals that could vote, however in the Scottish indie referendum it was a case of anyone who resided in Scotland could cast a vote, I just think that the Nats missed a trick there, personal viewpoint of course.

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Originally Posted by seeyazander

As in the EU referendum it was only British nationals that could vote, however in the Scottish indie referendum it was a case of anyone who resided in Scotland could cast a vote, I just think that the Nats missed a trick there, personal viewpoint of course.

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You shouldn't need tricks to win a referendum. Did Cameron 'miss a trick' when he agreed to 16-17's being allowed to vote? Probably, judging by the voting patterns. But there was a lot of horse-trading going on during the negotiations so no point crying over spilt milk now.

Sometimes it is just the right thing to do, such as to allow those that pay their tax here to have a say on the future of the country. The EU referendum got it wrong as donsdaft has said but then they thought they had more than enough votes.

Nah
No trick missed there

They just proved that a vote for Scottish independence from Westminster wasn’t a vote for small minded insular nationalism.

An inclusive Europen country was what you were voting for

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Originally Posted by StandfreeFM

You shouldn't need tricks to win a referendum. Did Cameron 'miss a trick' when he agreed to 16-17's being allowed to vote? Probably, judging by the voting patterns. But there was a lot of horse-trading going on during the negotiations so no point crying over spilt milk now.

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Myself and all of my extended family voted Yes, we accepted the result although we were all gutted, would still vote Yes again and I sometimes wonder given the state that the UK is in now, how many No voters would change their minds.

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Originally Posted by seeyazander

Myself and all of my extended family voted Yes, we accepted the result although we were all gutted, would still vote Yes again and I sometimes wonder given the state that the UK is in now, how many No voters would change their minds.

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None I know of. Apart fae Billy Connolly and well...

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Originally Posted by StandfreeFM

None I know of. Apart fae Billy Connolly and well...

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You've not been chapping on doors then for me there's definitely a swing especially Kingswells and West hill areas.
Both areas blanket NO 2014

Encouraging.