Match Thread vs. Oxford City 27.01.21 [FAT QF]

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Originally Posted by SwalePie

That terrible manager Sam Allardyce had a Notts relegation on his CV. That's why he's been so unsuccessful ever since I suppose.

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Like I have said before promotion or relegation do not make a bad or good manager alone.
Its the way they go about it.
So that is why I ask the Ardley disciples to name what hes done that is so good for notts county..
I have Also asked if he is so good why do you want him gone if he doesn't get us promotion this season?
One for you swale I if you like

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Originally Posted by PedroTheFisherman66

Like I have said before promotion or relegation do not make a bad or good manager alone.
Its the way they go about it.
So that is why I ask the Ardley disciples to name what hes done that is so good for notts county..
I have Also asked if he is so good why do you want him gone if he doesn't get us promotion this season?
One for you swale I if you like

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Good for Notts - he hasn’t yet, but within touching distance. Although, despite the disappointing end to last season there were some positives.

Gone at the end of season, if he doesn’t get us promoted - answered that yourself, he wouldn’t have got us promoted

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Originally Posted by laddo

You've made that promise before and quickly broken it and reverted to type.

Forget Gumpy , the offer (promise) is out there to both Pedro and Elite, it's so easy for them both to say yes and improve the board for everyone, instantly.

What's stopping them? Nothing unless they don't they can do it. Now that would be embarrassing.




"I Guess What I'm Trying to Say, Is That if I Can Change, and You Can Change, Everybody Can Change!"

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I have to revert to type. I could try shouting but I think you're too far away to hear, sorry, I've got no change.

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Originally Posted by Killerkline

Good for Notts - he hasn’t yet, but within touching distance. Although, despite the disappointing end to last season there were some positives.

Gone at the end of season, if he doesn’t get us promoted - answered that yourself, he wouldn’t have got us promoted

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I think you miss the whole point of the post.
Just because he doesn't get us promotion doesn't mean hes bad does it.?
Or does it then?
Like I have said it's not all about promotion or relegation that maketh the man.

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Originally Posted by Mapperleypie

.....Can we just not all agree that Ardleys tactics are painfully negative in the extreme and leave it there?

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I'm gonna suggest you are aiming a little high expecting widespread agreement to that exact wording.

How about can we all agree that this season we are poor going forward and don't create enough but defensively we are solid, solid as a rock?

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Originally Posted by PedroTheFisherman66

I think you miss the whole point of the post.
Just because he doesn't get us promotion doesn't mean hes bad does it.?
Or does it then?
Like I have said it's not all about promotion or relegation that maketh the man.

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Not at all. You’ve asked 2 questions in your previous post, which I’ve answered.

With regards to promotion this season, that’s the target for the club and Ardley. If Ardley doesn’t deliver, he would have failed. This season is all about promotion.

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Originally Posted by PedroTheFisherman66

This is what does my head in.
Yourself and others state that hes not very good or a steady manager.
But then bend over backwards to praise and defend him and make excuses for his teams negative style and poor performances.(do you disagree that hes a negative manager?)
My own negativity towards him is purely down to his poor management of a club I love.
I wish him no harm, I wish him well,hes a lovely chap I'm sure he is.
But he is a poor negative manager.
Even if he gets us promoted we should get rid.that is my argument full stop.
In my eyes hes a poor manager,we are currently achieving despite him not because of him.
So when attacking this opinion or view can you please state why hes not a bad manager , and not refer to moniz nolan or hardy and focus on his ardleys attributes as opposed to other managers owners short comings.

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I said steady, not bad and if I was pushed I would say better than steady in that he got Wimbledon up and kept them up.
I never overly praise him or vice versa, in my view he’s doing a decent job this season and last and yes made mistakes in the relegation season but I’ve let that go as I think the circumstances didn’t help (that’s been done to death too).

I would say his pros are recruitment, organisation and also appears to have the players working extremely hard in games which isn’t a given and moral seems high.

Cons: Probably overthinks things, probably a little too much focus on opposition which I think can be a good thing if players tune in and that was my main criticism of him when we got relegated as we didn’t have those players. The place was full of 40 odd pros when he walked in, which of about 3 are probably playing that standard still, it needed something else, it actually might have been Kewell for that situation as he was more hard nosed.

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Originally Posted by PedroTheFisherman66

Like I have said before promotion or relegation do not make a bad or good manager alone.
Its the way they go about it.
So that is why I ask the Ardley disciples to name what hes done that is so good for notts county..
I have Also asked if he is so good why do you want him gone if he doesn't get us promotion this season?
One for you swale I if you like

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If he gets us promoted I don't want him gone. Not sure why that's one for me.

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Originally Posted by SwalePie

Can't you lot ALL give it a bloody rest for the sake of the rest of us who have to read this childish nonsense daily on totally unrelated threads? Pretty please?

I'm confident there are dozens of posters who feel the same, although I guess it could be just me...

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It’s not just you.

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Originally Posted by SwalePie

Can't you lot ALL give it a bloody rest for the sake of the rest of us who have to read this childish nonsense daily on totally unrelated threads? Pretty please?

I'm confident there are dozens of posters who feel the same, although I guess it could be just me...

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Your confidence is not misplaced, it is definitely not just you.