O/T DDay for Brexit..well sort of...

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Originally Posted by BigLadonOS

1. We don't like the terms of EU membership;
2. We don't like the terms that the EU are willing to agree to allow for an orderly departure from the EU, but don’t like no deal either;
3. We want to trade with the EU after Brexit, but don't like the terms that are likely to go with a Trade Deal; and
4. We want to trade with the US after Brexit, but don't like the terms that are likely to go with a Trade Deal.

Is there anything that we do like?

1 and 2 are correct. 3 you do not know what you are talking about and the same goes for 4. Dont throw stuff up you have no clue about.

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We do have a good idea of what we are looking at if we at least try and listen to financial experts in the UK:

https://www.ft.com/content/40d74c90-...a-05ac2431f453

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Originally Posted by ragingpup

We do have a good idea of what we are looking at if we at least try and listen to financial experts in the UK:

https://www.ft.com/content/40d74c90-...a-05ac2431f453

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Will these be the same financial experts we listened to before the last financial crisis?

You read far too much.


The economy IS starting to suffer because politicians have faffed around for 3 years.

Mainly because 600 odd imbeciles are playing at 'amateur dramatics' in the commons.

We are now immersed in politics of fear, when in fact we should just get on with it.

Honour the vote and stop bleating.

Pathetic.

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Originally Posted by howdydoo

Will these be the same financial experts we listened to before the last financial crisis?

You read far too much.


The economy IS starting to suffer because politicians have faffed around for 3 years.

Mainly because 600 odd imbeciles are playing at 'amateur dramatics' in the commons.

We are now immersed in politics of fear, when in fact we should just get on with it.

Honour the vote and stop bleating.

Pathetic.

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Compromise on a deal and I will.

But you won't.

So I won't.

XD

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Originally Posted by howdydoo

Will these be the same financial experts we listened to before the last financial crisis?

You read far too much.


The economy IS starting to suffer because politicians have faffed around for 3 years.

Mainly because 600 odd imbeciles are playing at 'amateur dramatics' in the commons.

We are now immersed in politics of fear, when in fact we should just get on with it.

Honour the vote and stop bleating.

Pathetic.

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100% Correct.

Vote only once putting a cross 'X' in the box next to your choice:

Should the United Kingdom remain a member of the European Union or leave the European Union?

Remain a member of the European Union

Leave the European Union


It was as plain and simple as that.

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Originally Posted by howdydoo

Vote only once putting a cross 'X' in the box next to your choice:

Should the United Kingdom remain a member of the European Union or leave the European Union?

Remain a member of the European Union

Leave the European Union


It was as plain and simple as that.

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Yes, but how many times? Leaving the EU with a deal, as most voters expected, is still leaving the EU. That is where you and I differ hugely. And where you and the majority of the UK voters differ hugely.

The majority of the UK want to leave with a secured deal that will minimise damage to the economy. The majority of the UK do not want to leave with a No Deal.

It's as plain and simple as that.

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Originally Posted by ragingpup

We do have a good idea of what we are looking at if we at least try and listen to financial experts in the UK:

https://www.ft.com/content/40d74c90-...a-05ac2431f453

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That's the same FT that said in 2001: “With Greece now trading in euros, few will mourn the death of the drachma,” it predicted. “Membership of the Eurozone offers the prospect of long-term economic stability.”

https://www.independent.co.uk/voices...-a7059326.html

And Treasury predictions were 500,000 to 800,000 people to lose their jobs immediately after a vote for Brexit.

Unemployment actually fell.

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Originally Posted by ragingpup

Yes, but how many times? Leaving the EU with a deal, as most voters expected, is still leaving the EU. That is where you and I differ hugely. And where you and the majority of the UK voters differ hugely.

The majority of the UK want to leave with a secured deal that will minimise damage to the economy. The majority of the UK do not want to leave with a No Deal.

It's as plain and simple as that.

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That may be true but at this stage a deal does not look like happening so by default we are happy to leave without a deal now because the powers that be set out a deal that was in no way leaving the EU.

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Originally Posted by ragingpup

Yes, but how many times? Leaving the EU with a deal, as most voters expected, is still leaving the EU. That is where you and I differ hugely. And where you and the majority of the UK voters differ hugely.

The majority of the UK want to leave with a secured deal that will minimise damage to the economy. The majority of the UK do not want to leave with a No Deal.

It's as plain and simple as that.

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Fake news

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Originally Posted by ragingpup

I guess that they are thinking of options as clearly trying to reach agreement with the government and come to an negotiated agreement that honours the referendum, satisfying enough MPs to actually get through has proved impossible. May tried, Labour tried. All failed. What next? We could keep a principled position of honouring the referendum via a No Deal. But is that democratically what the country want? The majority?

You're right they could maintain that position but as we are seeing, the majority of Labour members and voters are remain based and are wanting their party to change tack simply to avoid a No Deal. He is quickly losing those voters/members. Corbyn is trying to maintain the principled stance wouldn't you agree but is falling down hugely from MPs to voters.

What do you think he should do next? (Keep it clean!)

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The majority of Labour members and voters are remain based?????? Where did you dig that statistic up? The traditional Labour voters voted overwhelmingly to leave the EU.