Why, tell me why.....

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Originally Posted by army88

Agreed but I keep going back to three other players that we didn’t secure and asking myself would they have made the difference? Was last seasons success all based on those three players.

And when youve digested that accepting the opposition is better this season where has the shape - structure and tactic gone - something is wrong and I can’t put my finger on what it is at the moment.

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The defence is not settled.

Yesterday the Gunners were just running through our midfield virtually unchallenged.

I counted SIX times Fofana battled for and then won the ball and he had no-one in close support to pass too.

We are bloody rubbish.

And by the way young Jimmy was not at fault for any of the five goals conceded.

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Originally Posted by The Bedlington Terrier

We are bloody rubbish.

And by the way young Jimmy was not at fault for any of the five goals conceded.

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He is too young and inexperieced for the PL.I am confident Muric could have done better.£20m?

I would love to sit down with Jack Cork for a chat, and ask him his honest opinion of Kompany and his management style.

I wonder what his response would be

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Originally Posted by ClaretinBudapest

He is too young and inexperieced for the PL.I am confident Muric could have done better.£20m?

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I hope tbh CIB you get your wish but it won’t make a blind bit off difference until we stop
The school boy rubbish elsewhere- I’d be completely with you if Trafford was making mistakes all the time but he isn’t - it’s what’s going on in front of him where the issues lie.

O’Shea I think actually has heart and pride in his trade but also mistakes in his game which is a shame really - I did feel for the defence yesterday a bit as right from martinelli s first run and pull back to an un marked odegard the midfield simply could / would not get near the opposition.

If we have any pride and ambition to improve I think we may have to change shape as centrally in most games we are not competitive so one up top and 5 centrally - that’s if we care - although I think I’d rather have cullen back centrally we won’t win headers but he is definitely competitive and gives his best .

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Originally Posted by ballcock

I would love to sit down with Jack Cork for a chat, and ask him his honest opinion of Kompany and his management style.

I wonder what his response would be

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He may say he doesn’t agree Ballcock - but Corks legs weren’t up to it last time around at this level - I’d keep Jack tbh for another season in championship if he wanted to stay - at premiership level though he’s a last 15 mins man for me as is JBG for me - how people think they can offer at this level is beyond me.

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Originally Posted by army88

He may say he doesn’t agree Ballcock - but Corks legs weren’t up to it last time around at this level - I’d keep Jack tbh for another season in championship if he wanted to stay - at premiership level though he’s a last 15 mins man for me as is JBG for me - how people think they can offer at this level is beyond me.

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He's not even getting 15 minutes though army88. :blue:

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Originally Posted by army88

I hope tbh CIB you get your wish but it won’t make a blind bit off difference until we stop
The school boy rubbish elsewhere- I’d be completely with you if Trafford was making mistakes all the time but he isn’t - it’s what’s going on in front of him where the issues lie.

O’Shea I think actually has heart and pride in his trade but also mistakes in his game which is a shame really - I did feel for the defence yesterday a bit as right from martinelli s first run and pull back to an un marked odegard the midfield simply could / would not get near the opposition.

If we have any pride and ambition to improve I think we may have to change shape as centrally in most games we are not competitive so one up top and 5 centrally - that’s if we care - although I think I’d rather have cullen back centrally we won’t win headers but he is definitely competitive and gives his best .

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Cullen is another player that VK turned his back on after getting us promoted and winning player of the season in 22/23.Hardly inspires loyalty and team spirit does it Army.You cannot just say thanks for getting us promoted as one of the best teams in Championship history but I have some new lads now so sit on the bench or you can go out on loan even if those new lads turn out to be shoite you still wont get a look in.
If it was me I would be on do one airlines as BT says.If VK then reverts to those players when we are back in the Championship what does that message send.

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Originally Posted by army88

He may say he doesn’t agree Ballcock - but Corks legs weren’t up to it last time around at this level - I’d keep Jack tbh for another season in championship if he wanted to stay - at premiership level though he’s a last 15 mins man for me as is JBG for me - how people think they can offer at this level is beyond me.

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You misunderstood me.

I know Cork is finished at this level and he will no that.
What l would like to know are his honest views on the present set up. Cork is an old experience pro and played for various managers, though I doubt he has been involved in a setup as crazy and disorganised as this

And still nobody has attempted to answer my question. Why is VK still here? He shuld have been sacked in November

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Originally Posted by chastenor

And still nobody has attempted to answer my question. Why is VK still here? He shuld have been sacked in November

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Most of us on this forum are men of patience, empathy and understanding Sir Chas.

After witnessing yesterday's debacle all three qualities are wearing thin for me and no mistake.