Spurs sack Frank

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Originally Posted by WTF11

"What does it matter how we got to how we are playing now."? Really? Doesn't everything about how we got (get) to where we are matter?

Farke has yet to prove he has learned some important lessons, with tactical substitutions being one of the most important. For nearly half the season so far he has been stubborny sticking with tactics and substitutions that clearly weren't working. Burnley have done the same and look where it's got them, Parker can't (or won't), change.

For the most part the sentiments regarding player commitment apply to the whole season and had they been coached so as to play as they have post the City match we wouldn't be even remotely at risk of relegation. The squad hasn't changed, neither has their commitment.

And "if you don't try in training or have some indiscipline your gone"? So Tanaka, Gnonto, Piroe have all been guilty of being lazy or ill-disciplined? Others could be added to that list. Farke has ALWAYS played (literally), favourites.

And how you can justify the statement regarding Frank "losing the dressing room", just because he had some prima donnas that aren't there any more? Brentford finished 10th, unlucky not to finish higher but never at any risk of descending like those around us now. Most would acknowledge that under Frank they have punched way above their weight, would that we were doing likewise.

We're not going to agree. Let's just hope, if we survive and the rumours about Frank and Crystal Palace, tgat we live to regret not going for what I at least believe would have been a Farke upgrade.

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No we will never agree, your relentlessly run the club down. Your latest being you want to replace our manager with a manager of a team lower in the league than us, despite them on massive wages and worth, he lost the dressing room and players playing up in front of the crowd.. fans booing him off, no playing style, under performing ... you think thats what we need ..nah

And "if you don't try in training or have some indiscipline your gone"? So Tanaka, Gnonto, Piroe have all been guilty of being lazy or ill-disciplined? Others could be added to that list. Farke has ALWAYS played (literally), favourites.

where exactly have i said that about these players, who last time i checked are still with the club

You are all delusional or talking nonsense on here!....except for the legend of WTF naturally.... B)

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Originally Posted by whitestomper45

And "if you don't try in training or have some indiscipline your gone"? So Tanaka, Gnonto, Piroe have all been guilty of being lazy or ill-disciplined? Others could be added to that list. Farke has ALWAYS played (literally), favourites.

where exactly have i said that about these players, who last time i checked are still with the club

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"Farke controls his squad.. if you don't try in training or have some indiscipline your gone..".

Yes he does, and the absence from regular game time of some of our most exciting and impactful players (those I mentioned), shows just how controlling he is prepared to be. What other rationale can explain the denial of their contribution?

And your mantra of Frank "losing the dressing room" at Spurs etc etc is as meaningless as it is repetitive. Spurs are (and have been for some time), a train wreck. There was no unified dressing room to lose, it hasn't been for the last two or three seasons (at least).

My analysis of Frank and his achievements is based on his time BEFORE Spurs particularly but not exclusively at Brentford, and that compares VERY favourably with that of Farke.

We'll see what happens between now and seasons end and what develops on the managerial front at Leeds and elsewhere

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Originally Posted by WTF11

"Farke controls his squad.. if you don't try in training or have some indiscipline your gone..".

Yes he does, and the absence from regular game time of some of our most exciting and impactful players (those I mentioned), shows just how controlling he is prepared to be. What other rationale can explain the denial of their contribution?

And your mantra of Frank "losing the dressing room" at Spurs etc etc is as meaningless as it is repetitive. Spurs are (and have been for some time), a train wreck. There was no unified dressing room to lose, it hasn't been for the last two or three seasons (at least).

My analysis of Frank and his achievements is based on his time BEFORE Spurs particularly but not exclusively at Brentford, and that compares VERY favourably with that of Farke.

We'll see what happens between now and seasons end and what develops on the managerial front at Leeds and elsewhere

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It's a known fact he has lost the dressing room if you care to to search or maybe watched players reaction to his substitutions... Example his captain sent off numerous times, players approached and questioned why he wasn't relinquished of his duties. Frank has became indecisive with tactics... he hasn't any... binned by Spurs but OK for you.. His success at Brentford was in part down to the good backroom staff, most are still there only 4 moved with him

Explain to me what Frank will bring to the club... apart from disruption, he will bring a team with him... so a few of the very good backroom staff at LUFC will be binned... He's just proven he can't handle big club pressure...You are obsessed with disliking anything LUFC does. We are a newly promoted club, that is improving, for most of us that is OK 1st year back.. but not you.
AO didnt exactly do himself any favours with his latest performances... so DF he goes on form... yet you reckon he has favourites.. The only one I can reckon that plays because you can't understand why he plays is Gruev... as most of what he does is off the ball: closes channels for the opposition to play through us. Willie is hot/cold Piroe is not better than DCL or Nmecha

That dj spence lad seems to have a bit of an attitude. Credit Farke for seeing through that.

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Originally Posted by whitestomper45

Frank gradually lost the dressing room, he couldn't control some of the players, he let Romero do what he want. Spurs are a far bigger club than Brentford, just as Leeds are... so no thanks am happy with Daniel, he's improving, the clubs improving, your trying to reinvent the wheel

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Good to see that Tudor has arrested that "lose the dressing room" sickness at Spuds!! XDXDXD

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Originally Posted by WTF11

Good to see that Tudor has arrested that "lose the dressing room" sickness at Spuds!! XDXDXD

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Yet another disastrous managerial appointment from the board. Having a great ground that they maximise profits and use from but always holding out refusing to pay the going rate for top players or managers. They are now no longer a top 6 club and it will be a while before they get anywhere near that level. Not sure what your point is, Tudor, Farke, Ange all terrible appointments for Spurs... am fairly sure Farke would have done a better job there than those 3... unlike you I wouldn't want any of that 3 in charge of us...

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Originally Posted by whitestomper45

Yet another disastrous managerial appointment from the board. Having a great ground that they maximise profits and use from but always holding out refusing to pay the going rate for top players or managers. They are now no longer a top 6 club and it will be a while before they get anywhere near that level. Not sure what your point is, Tudor, Farke, Ange all terrible appointments for Spurs... am fairly sure Farke would have done a better job there than those 3... unlike you I wouldn't want any of that 3 in charge of us...

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Spurs has become a bit of a basket case. It appears to need a lot of change and that requires time which none of the managers have been properly given.

If Ferguson was in charge of Man U today he would never have been given the time to build the foundations for what then followed.

The style of football that the managers appointed play seem to be quite disparate too which means the managers may not have the players suited to their style.

Ange won a trophy, Frank needed to be backed and then the board seems to have pancicked - if they go down instead of us all the better.