O/t 11/11

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Originally Posted by rolymiller

More than if you do absolutely nowt about it. I suspect that there will and continue to be similar demonstrations round the world to back up what is happening here.

There is a lot of hypocrisy on here at times. Some say we need to respect the people who fought and died for our freedom of speech but then ignore the political movements that also give us our rights today. If nobody had ever protested about their conditions in the past we would still be slaves now. So its ok to go kick **** out of others to get our rights but not by using other more peaceful methods.

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No it's not but It's about being sensible and sensitive.

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Originally Posted by a123

Do you honestly believe that the leadership in Israel are going to be swayed in any way by this march in London today? Or that it will have any impact on the UK government’s stance on it?

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The Israelis don't give two hoots what the world thinks on how they go about ending this conflict .

I actually wouldn't expect them to given the very existence of their people and state is under threat by those who wish to annihilate them or drive them out and they don't all reside in Gaza either .

I'm actually left wondering what it is some people are expecting to see going on over there given what's at stake .

Perhaps some of these protesters today might want to consider that if you don't want a state who are surrounded by people who wish to see you eliminated it's perhaps not a good idea to attack them at a music festival and slaughter everyone you can find in the name of Palestine .

Sensible and sensitive v horrific and unfair frog. The thing is which is most pressing atm? We have armistice day every year. Hopefully there should not be a need for a pro palestinian demo next year. Like i mentioned on a previous post demonstrators are wearing poppies. It can work.

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Originally Posted by rolymiller

Tha needs to get a book on politics botn and.get ya sen educated. Tommy robinson leading the march. A self confessed far right member and head of a far right group.

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So what is far right?
Tommy Robinson ok but why are certain groups classed as far right and the Palestine marches causing trouble nothing why us that Roly I think you know why don’t you.
Could it be how it’s reported ?
Could it be certain people want to push the narrative?

I’ve had plenty of arguments with EDL members but I’m also balanced enough to recognise the difference in reporting certain marches
You should get yourself educated or try and take off the left centred spectacles Roly.
I’m neither left or right I’ll call it as I see it.

Meanwhile it's reported that:-

Meanwhile, in the Met Police’s huge underground control room in south London, officers are working on every aspect of the operation.

Police lawyers and staff from the Crown Prosecution Service sit alongside officers to advise on whether the law is being broken, incident by incident.

THEY'VE GOT VAR 😆

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Originally Posted by animallittle3

The Israelis don't give two hoots what the world thinks on how they go about ending this conflict .

I actually wouldn't expect them to given the very existence of their people and state is under threat by those who wish to annihilate them or drive them out and they don't all reside in Gaza either .

I'm actually left wondering what it is some people are expecting to see going on over there given what's at stake .

Perhaps some of these protesters today might want to consider that if you don't want a state who are surrounded by people who wish to see you eliminated it's perhaps not a good idea to attack them at a music festival and slaughter everyone you can find in the name of Palestine .

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That’s the issue you would believe from the coverage in the media that Israel chose to launch a totally unprovoked attack on Gaza, when they are responding to a terrorist atrocity that left over 1400 Israelis dead and over 200 taken hostage.

What the hell did Hamas believe would happen in response.

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Originally Posted by Back of the net

So what is far right?
Tommy Robinson ok but why are certain groups classed as far right and the Palestine marches causing trouble nothing why us that Roly I think you know why don’t you.
Could it be how it’s reported ?
Could it be certain people want to push the narrative?

I’ve had plenty of arguments with EDL members but I’m also balanced enough to recognise the difference in reporting certain marches
You should get yourself educated or try and take off the left centred spectacles Roly.
I’m neither left or right I’ll call it as I see it.

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I go round in circles trying to make you understand what I'm talking about BOTN and find you very frustrating at times but I do think your heart is in the right place as most are on here. I prob just don't explain myself very well!

Anyway. Tuning into the Millers shortly...please a win today and lets stop faffing about away from home!

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Originally Posted by rolymiller

Sensible and sensitive v horrific and unfair frog. The thing is which is most pressing atm? We have armistice day every year. Hopefully there should not be a need for a pro palestinian demo next year. Like i mentioned on a previous post demonstrators are wearing poppies. It can work.

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That's right Roly. Armistice is every year on the same date. The 11th hour of the 11 day in the 11th month. It's only the UK that have it on the Sunday but there's always a ceremony when it falls on a Saturday but every where else has it on the 11th.

It is one day that is respected by most in the UK. They should not allowed this march to happen in London today.

I beg to differ but each to his own. I think both events can happen on the same day peacefully and sensitively.

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Originally Posted by Back of the net

SAD IQ KHAN says he doesn’t care about armistice day he thinks that should be arranged instead.
He’s anti anything for this country.
Disrespect runs through his veins.

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Now shown to be fake but what I fail to comprehend is why producing/distributing it isn't considered a crime?

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-london-67389609

Let's all just make **** up about anyone to fuel our own agenda and incite hatred. What do you mean that's par for the course on MM? XD