The West Bank.

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Originally Posted by outwoodclaret

Supersub. I am a Christian now (my choice) and I am happy with that. I have been in the past atheist/agnostic so I don’t have any problem whatsoever with people who are not religious. In fact I can quite see their point of view. After all I once shared it. Large as my family is there are very few professing Christians in it. That is perhaps a reflection of the times we live in. So it goes, as one of my favourite authors Kurt Vonnegut wrote.

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A couple of months ago me ad the wife took Holy Communion inside York Minster, the congregation was made up of every colour and creed and the service was truly special. My wife asked me over lunch, "Why can't we all live in Peace?"

I simply replied, "I suppose the haters outnumber the peacemakers".

“Peace I leave with you, My peace I give to you; not as the world gives do I give to you. Let not your heart be troubled, neither let it be afraid.” John 14:27.

Sad is it not Sir Outwood that such a simple message cannot be understood and adhered to? >:(

The hate currently on display in Israel was never part of the Lord's plan, I am 100% sure about that.

My biggest question is how on earth are Hamas keeping the hostages safe when the IDF are reducing Gaza to piles of rubble?

"There is a whole city all over Gaza underneath with depths of 40-50 metres. There are bunkers and headquarters and storage and of course they are connected to more than a thousand rocket launching positions." Other sources estimated depths of up to 80 metres. One Western security source said: "They run for miles.2 ( there is also a strip joint ,but shhhh, ( IDF intelligence source )

BT . Its not hate! it's just tit for tat! (The hate currently on display in Israel was never part of the Lord's plan, I am 100% sure about that.)

Think of it as something like chess ! ( they move ,you move, etc etc )

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My biggest question is how on earth are Hamas keeping the hostages safe when the IDF are reducing Gaza to piles of rubble?

"There is a whole city all over Gaza underneath with depths of 40-50 metres. There are bunkers and headquarters and storage and of course they are connected to more than a thousand rocket launching positions." Other sources estimated depths of up to 80 metres. One Western security source said: "They run for miles.2 ( there is also a strip joint ,but shhhh, ( IDF intelligence source )

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How on earth did the IDF let them get away with such a building/construction project Balan? My clear understanding is that the IDF would not allow concrete or building materials into the Strip. Is that what you mean by a "Strip Joint?" >:)

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Originally Posted by The Bedlington Terrier

One bit of breaking news this morning that has taken me completely by surprise:

Netanyahu will negotiate with "terrorists".

Hamas somehow managed to take more than fifty women and kids hostage.

Netanyahu will swop 50 Jewish women and kids for 150 Palestinian women and kids who are currently locked up in Israeli jails, I presume incarcerated without trial.

My biggest question is how on earth are Hamas keeping the hostages safe when the IDF are reducing Gaza to piles of rubble?

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Not sure why you are surprised mon ami, it's been talked about for several days now, as for the hostages, they're in the metro under southern Gaza which the IDF has not attacked yet. Interestingly I've read that the IDF are fully on board with a ceasefire, it was the more hard line Israeli politicians who needed bringing on board.

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Not sure why you are surprised mon ami, it's been talked about for several days now, as for the hostages, they're in the metro under southern Gaza which the IDF has not attacked yet. Interestingly I've read that the IDF are fully on board with a ceasefire, it was the more hard line Israeli politicians who needed bringing on board.

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It was the sheer amount of women and kids being used as pawns on both sides that surprised me mon ami.

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BT . Its not hate! it's just tit for tat! (The hate currently on display in Israel was never part of the Lord's plan, I am 100% sure about that.)

Think of it as something like chess ! ( they move ,you move, etc etc )

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I don't know if you will be able to open this link in Israel Balan, it really is pretty distressing...

https://www.facebook.com/groups/feed/

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It was the sheer amount of women and kids being used as pawns on both sides that surprised me mon ami.

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Nothing should surprise us any more mon ami, the whole situation in this day and age, besides being horrific, is absolutely surreal, how on earth has it been allowed to come to this ?

It's taken 15 years to get to October 7th 2023 and the world has not just sat back and watched but cheered Hamas on as they dug their own graves and that of thousands of Gaza citizens. Not just surreal, absolute madness.

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Nothing should surprise us any more mon ami, the whole situation in this day and age, besides being horrific, is absolutely surreal, how on earth has it been allowed to come to this ?

It's taken 15 years to get to October 7th 2023 and the world has not just sat back and watched but cheered Hamas on as they dug their own graves and that of thousands of Gaza citizens. Not just surreal, absolute madness.

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The blame game should have no part in this discourse mon ami.

It saddens me beyond my imagination that the Pope, the Archbishop of Bishop, the Islamic Allamah, the Jewish religious leaders and their ilk are not standing in their pulpits or soap boxes and loudly condemning the sheer barbarity being carried out on both sides.

It seems that countries as well as people can't help but take sides on this conflict...

https://besacenter.org/he/category/p...s-he/?swcfpc=1