I voted yes....but felt like I'd been kicked in the ba's the day

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Originally Posted by noahrab

Still no answers from Braveheart and Rob Roy as to how an iScotland would fill the near 15bn hole in our finances.

Proof if any was needed that these types want independence regardless of the cost to Scotland. In reality they don't really care about democracy or the future of our country.

Couple of paps.

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Looks like to me you only read what supports your politics and you disregard the rest.
How do we get the 1-6 trillion of dept created by Westminster down.
It's not by renewing trident at a cost of now over 205bn .
Well how do we get that 1-6 trillion of dept down I await your reply .

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Originally Posted by Buc

Looks like to me you only read what supports your politics and you disregard the rest.
How do we get the 1-6 trillion of dept created by Westminster down.
It's not by renewing trident at a cost of now over 205bn .
Well how do we get that 1-6 trillion of dept down I await your reply .

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More deflection. I'll type the next bit slowly to see if you can understand it any easier and to see if you can answer the question.

How would an iScotland deal with near 15bn hole in our finances?

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Originally Posted by noahrab

More deflection. I'll type the next bit slowly to see if you can understand it any easier and to see if you can answer the question.

How would an iScotland deal with near 15bn hole in our finances?

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Again you avoid my question you are the one who CANT answer any question there's a few on here that has answered your questions but you ignore them or indeed say whatever rude word you feel like using at the time .
It's obvious you are a unionist at ALL costs .and again your hate for the SNP shows through Paddy
Regards John .

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Originally Posted by stewarty27

You're worried are you Bodie. Well for me that's very pleasing that an ubar Britnat fanatic like yourself is worried. Could it possibly be you know the Union is totally unsustainable, Your half wit cohort from Dundee is also worried that its him that has no answers, Whatever he thinks about the state of Scotland's finances (and it seems to give him and his ilk a fair amount of glee to point out how totally shyte we are.) the bottom line is For the past 300 years the levers of economic control in Scotland have been firmly in the hands of the Westminster Parliament. that's not whataboutery that's a glaring fact.

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You have picked me up wrong Stewarty. What I mean it's worrying that there is people that will put all our futures at risk for their own personnel pipe dream.
I'm not worried at all that Scotland will be independent in my lifetime.

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Originally Posted by noahrab

More deflection. I'll type the next bit slowly to see if you can understand it any easier and to see if you can answer the question.

How would an iScotland deal with near 15bn hole in our finances?

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You really are one dence dunderheid. You cannot compare Scotland under the current constitutional framework. to an Independent Scotland ! There is only a deficit because of the £68 billion charged against Scotland over £28 billion relates to "other uk expenditure". Within that number we get charged £3 billion for defence but only £1.3 billion is spent in Scotland, Do you understand that ?!!! For 32 years in a row Scotland produced a surplus its only since t5he oil slump and the total mismanagement of that sector by the UK Gov has this deficit appeared, We would manage our economy very differently to the UK THATS THE WHOLE PHUCKING POINT OF INDEPENDENCE !! Jezz o how can one man's mind so locked and frozen.

Now read this very slowly Paddy. as its the final answer I'll give to your tedious repetitive childlike haverings.

Scotland is a very wealthy country. We would not need to deal with Deficits. could give you the facts and figures but they would just go over your head,

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Originally Posted by noahrab

More deflection. I'll type the next bit slowly to see if you can understand it any easier and to see if you can answer the question.

How would an iScotland deal with near 15bn hole in our finances?

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"Deal with"...
Interesting choice of words - "deal with"... "manage" "repay"... all very different, and I know you are a guy who likes to pin posters down on the exact wording they have used so you obviously do not mean "How would an iScotland repay the near 15bn hole in our finances?"...
The fact is that Scotland has debt just as all other countries have debt. It is rarely repaid but is managed.
Semantics aside, (I know they are your thing but they bore the erse off me...), Scotland's debt to GDP ratio has increased to a level higher than that of the rest of the United Kingdom.
Whether someone is for or against independence, there is no denying that reckless spending that cannot be sustained is not a policy that should be pursued.
Now, all this notwithstanding, it is actually rather difficult to pin down a figure here - one rag says it is twice the rUK figure, another three times the rUK figure, and all are reporting this as if it was the end of the world. It is plainly not but it is a major concern, and SHOULD be a major concern to those advocating independence.
I do not think that it is unreasonable to ask the question as to why Scotland's deficit (as a % of GDP) has grown so large, and what steps the Scottish government have taken, and/or are taking to either reduce it or to stop it from increasing.

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Originally Posted by Buc

Again you avoid my question you are the one who CANT answer any question there's a few on here that has answered your questions but you ignore them or indeed say whatever rude word you feel like using at the time .
It's obvious you are a unionist at ALL costs .and again your hate for the SNP shows through Paddy
Regards John .

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Buc , Noah's question has not been answered at all. You are like the party you support, deny, deflect and blame someone else.
Maybe you will answer me. Please explain how an independent Scotland will handle the 15 billion pound hole in our finances ? Thanks in advance :)

And I would say you want independence at any cost. I remember you saying that you would give your life for Scotland to be independent.Now to me that is at any cost. I certainly wouldn't give my life for Scotland to stay in the Union. And your hate for the Union shines through as you have proven time and time again. That's fair enough but you have to accept that there is people like myself that totally disagrees with your political views in every shape and form. People,that love both Scotland and GB.
That's life

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Originally Posted by JackSnakes

"Deal with"...
Interesting choice of words - "deal with"... "manage" "repay"... all very different, and I know you are a guy who likes to pin posters down on the exact wording they have used so you obviously do not mean "How would an iScotland repay the near 15bn hole in our finances?"...
The fact is that Scotland has debt just as all other countries have debt. It is rarely repaid but is managed.
Semantics aside, (I know they are your thing but they bore the erse off me...), Scotland's debt to GDP ratio has increased to a level higher than that of the rest of the United Kingdom.
Whether someone is for or against independence, there is no denying that reckless spending that cannot be sustained is not a policy that should be pursued.
Now, all this notwithstanding, it is actually rather difficult to pin down a figure here - one rag says it is twice the rUK figure, another three times the rUK figure, and all are reporting this as if it was the end of the world. It is plainly not but it is a major concern, and SHOULD be a major concern to those advocating independence.
I do not think that it is unreasonable to ask the question as to why Scotland's deficit (as a % of GDP) has grown so large, and what steps the Scottish government have taken, and/or are taking to either reduce it or to stop it from increasing.

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All I want is to know what an iScotland would/could do to mitigate/repay/deal with/manage, call it what you will, WITHOUT the independence at any cost posters trying to bat it away by blaming someone else for it.

As you say, for those advocating independence, to convince No/undecided voters it should be a major concern.

Saying 'a big boy did it and ran away' won't wash.

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Originally Posted by JackSnakes

"Deal with"...
Interesting choice of words - "deal with"... "manage" "repay"... all very different, and I know you are a guy who likes to pin posters down on the exact wording they have used so you obviously do not mean "How would an iScotland repay the near 15bn hole in our finances?"...
The fact is that Scotland has debt just as all other countries have debt. It is rarely repaid but is managed.
Semantics aside, (I know they are your thing but they bore the erse off me...), Scotland's debt to GDP ratio has increased to a level higher than that of the rest of the United Kingdom.
Whether someone is for or against independence, there is no denying that reckless spending that cannot be sustained is not a policy that should be pursued.
Now, all this notwithstanding, it is actually rather difficult to pin down a figure here - one rag says it is twice the rUK figure, another three times the rUK figure, and all are reporting this as if it was the end of the world. It is plainly not but it is a major concern, and SHOULD be a major concern to those advocating independence.
I do not think that it is unreasonable to ask the question as to why Scotland's deficit (as a % of GDP) has grown so large, and what steps the Scottish government have taken, and/or are taking to either reduce it or to stop it from increasing.

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That's all very good and well Jack but we don't have the tools powers and means to manage it. This is one of the key planks to Independence.

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Originally Posted by noahrab

All I want is to know what an iScotland would/could do to mitigate/repay/deal with/manage, call it what you will, WITHOUT the independence at any cost posters trying to bat it away by blaming someone else for it.

As you say, for those advocating independence, to convince No/undecided voters it should be a major concern.

Saying 'a big boy did it and ran away' won't wash.

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It is a concern - of that there should be no question. having a deficit/gdp ration similar to that of the Congo does not scream "prudent financial management".
Now, I am absolutely certain that this will have been discussed at governmental level - there may even be policies or actions that have come out of these discussions - but it would seem that they are not generally available.
I think it is perfectly acceptable, given that there is no credible opposition party in Scotland, for the people to ask the question.