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    Quote Originally Posted by JackSnakes View Post
    "Deal with"...
    Interesting choice of words - "deal with"... "manage" "repay"... all very different, and I know you are a guy who likes to pin posters down on the exact wording they have used so you obviously do not mean "How would an iScotland repay the near 15bn hole in our finances?"...
    The fact is that Scotland has debt just as all other countries have debt. It is rarely repaid but is managed.
    Semantics aside, (I know they are your thing but they bore the erse off me...), Scotland's debt to GDP ratio has increased to a level higher than that of the rest of the United Kingdom.
    Whether someone is for or against independence, there is no denying that reckless spending that cannot be sustained is not a policy that should be pursued.
    Now, all this notwithstanding, it is actually rather difficult to pin down a figure here - one rag says it is twice the rUK figure, another three times the rUK figure, and all are reporting this as if it was the end of the world. It is plainly not but it is a major concern, and SHOULD be a major concern to those advocating independence.
    I do not think that it is unreasonable to ask the question as to why Scotland's deficit (as a % of GDP) has grown so large, and what steps the Scottish government have taken, and/or are taking to either reduce it or to stop it from increasing.
    All I want is to know what an iScotland would/could do to mitigate/repay/deal with/manage, call it what you will, WITHOUT the independence at any cost posters trying to bat it away by blaming someone else for it.

    As you say, for those advocating independence, to convince No/undecided voters it should be a major concern.

    Saying 'a big boy did it and ran away' won't wash.

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    Quote Originally Posted by noahrab View Post
    All I want is to know what an iScotland would/could do to mitigate/repay/deal with/manage, call it what you will, WITHOUT the independence at any cost posters trying to bat it away by blaming someone else for it.

    As you say, for those advocating independence, to convince No/undecided voters it should be a major concern.

    Saying 'a big boy did it and ran away' won't wash.
    It is a concern - of that there should be no question. having a deficit/gdp ration similar to that of the Congo does not scream "prudent financial management".
    Now, I am absolutely certain that this will have been discussed at governmental level - there may even be policies or actions that have come out of these discussions - but it would seem that they are not generally available.
    I think it is perfectly acceptable, given that there is no credible opposition party in Scotland, for the people to ask the question.

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    Scotland's biggest problem is it's excessive reliance on the public sector - where will the funds for that come from if we became independent (which we won't)?

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