Official Sam Nombe is here

You've also got to remember that MT inherited a team that wasn't his. We lost Dan. We lost Wiles to injury. We lost Rathbone to injury. We suffered injuries at key points of the season. We signed Morrison and he got injured immediately, same as Bailey Wright. We had far from a settled side last season and I think MT deserves massive credit for keeping us up.

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Originally Posted by Walt

And now, the most expensive Rotherham team in history, has lost 4 and drawn 2 this season

That's why I'm negative about Taylor....
But if that's what you want from a manager, that's your choice.....

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And the most expensive Rotherham team in history is still miles behind the likes of Stoke, Blackburn, Sunderland and Leicester, but I know you know that.

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Originally Posted by Walt

And now, the most expensive Rotherham team in history, has lost 4 and drawn 2 this season

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I don’t think EFL rules allow you to go back in time and win games you’ve already played for breaking your transfer record. “The most expensive” team in our history hasn’t played any games yet, and will likely need a bit of time to bed in. But I have a feeling they aren’t going to get it from you.

Well I'm looking forward to seeing the lad play. Welcome Sam.

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Originally Posted by Beaufighter

I don’t think EFL rules allow you to go back in time and win games you’ve already played for breaking your transfer record. “The most expensive” team in our history hasn’t played any games yet, and will likely need a bit of time to bed in. But I have a feeling they aren’t going to get it from you.

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We’ve also played 4 games, not sure why hes fetching cup into it when there was fringe players

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Originally Posted by Walt

Hmmm
That's what worries me
Nombe played with a strike partner who was close to double figures in assists - Hugill's career average is 1 per season
Washington or Kelly alongside, the lad might stand a chance - Hugill or Eaves, it could be a long season for Sam.....(and of course for us)

here's a stat - MT has now been in charge of 43 games (admittedly across all competitions)
He's won 8 (that's 18.6%) - if they'd all been league games, that would be 38 points from 43 games
Blackpool got 44 points from 46 games last season, Wigan got 45 (less 6 deducted), Reading got 50 (less 6 deducted)
MT's record is bottom of the league form....

lower win % than Redfearn, Gemmill/Mcgivern, Cusack, Kerr, Hunter or even Tommy Doc
Similar % to Harford and Bergara (remember how awful that was?)


MT didn't keep us up - the points that were on the board when he arrived are why we stayed up....

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Originally Posted by Redshank

What a fatuous argument. Bare facts with no context or perspective whatsoever. We'll never know how PWs team would have finished up had he not left, but leave he did leaving the club in a likely perilous position. Your whole argument presupposes that Warne's team would have maintained some form at least as good as what Taylor's did. It may have been worse and we'd have been relegated! We certainly didn't look like maintaining that early season point haul...but you never know, we might have rode our luck all season and won the league....who knows?!!!!

To call Taylor a "disaster" is typical of the knee-jerk, emotional/panicky schoolgirl crap that we regularly get on here. Nobody can argue about the points haul so far but the whole club and team has a much more positive and professional feel about it. FFs give the man some time and support before making such critical statements. He's had nowhere near enough time to make his mark.

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I didn't make any counterfactual claims about what would have happened if Warne had stayed, I merely pointed out the club record under MT is not good enough

The form over MT's 40 league and 44 league and cup games is bottom of the league form, even with the win over Norwich, even with the most expensive team in the club's history
If we hadn't had such a good start under Warne, then the MT results last season would have taken us down
just looking at league games MT's record for us is now P 40, 36 points, GD -22
That's what I'm judging him on

That said, I'll say again that I think that defence and midfield is good enough to stay up this season

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I didn't make any counterfactual claims about what would have happened if Warne had stayed, I merely pointed out the club record under MT is not good enough

The form over MT's 40 league and 44 league and cup games is bottom of the league form, even with the win over Norwich, even with the most expensive team in the club's history
If we hadn't had such a good start under Warne, then the MT results last season would have taken us down
just looking at league games MT's record for us is now P 40, 36 points, GD -22
That's what I'm judging him on

That said, I'll say again that I think that defence and midfield is good enough to stay up this season

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Given the quality of opposition at the level we are and the respective budgets, also taking into account our injuries, I would say we have done pretty well.

You know what they say about statistics. There are lies, damn lies and statistics. Same as all this Xg and possession nonsense. The brief is to keep us up and keep building. On that basis I would say he has done and is doing, an excellent job.

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Originally Posted by Back of the net

That’s an opinion not a fact.

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Nope. The form he had WAS relegation form. No opinion on it, them be facts of it.

I just don't get this idea that we've had a managerial upgrade. Form did not improve but went began to go backwards last season, including after January.

Am I against Taylor? No. Do I think he's a better Manager than Warne? Maybe, maybe not. This season is his season and I for one want him to be here regardless of what happens at the end of it. If we were to go down I'd still keep him on.

However, had the results been Warnes from the day he left to go to Derby to today.... The ones currently making out as though we are suddenly Brazil would be screaming for the managers head.

" greetings this is uncle Sam he's here to take us to an uncharted land "



Got the pace to do it needs to start. Way I'm looking at it we have Dext & Cafu down the right. Fred or Green on the left with Hugill & Sam up front.