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Originally Posted by Deeranged

And yet anyone with even a modicum of common sense can see that right on a major trunk road where traffic can access and egress quickly and efficiently without having to encounter traffic lights, roundabouts, housing schemes, pedestrians etc. on their way to the nearest major trunk road is exactly the right place for such a thing.

I'm sure Police Scotland will have been fully consulted on the latest traffic management plan and doubt it would have been submitted should they have proclaimed major misgivings.

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Bob Hynd told us back in 2018 that the Scottish Government rules for vehicles exiting from a car park onto the slip road to a flyover have been changed and vehicles were now no longer permitted to exit a car park directly onto a slip road to a flyover.
Bob said that the exit road for vehicles leaving the Kingsway West retail park onto the slip road to the Crematorium roundabout would have been banned.

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Originally Posted by Deeranged

And yet anyone with even a modicum of common sense can see that right on a major trunk road where traffic can access and egress quickly and efficiently without having to encounter traffic lights, roundabouts, housing schemes, pedestrians etc. on their way to the nearest major trunk road is exactly the right place for such a thing.

I'm sure Police Scotland will have been fully consulted on the latest traffic management plan and doubt it would have been submitted should they have proclaimed major misgivings.

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Has the latest traffic management plan actually been submitted by Dark Blue Property Holdings Limited to Transport Scotland who are still waiting for answers to the questions they sent to Nelms last year or has this latest traffic management plan been posted on the internet by Nelms as a deflection to avoid answering the questions from Transport Scotland.

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Originally Posted by islaydarkblue

Has the latest traffic management plan actually been submitted by Dark Blue Property Holdings Limited to Transport Scotland who are still waiting for answers to the questions they sent to Nelms last year or has this latest traffic management plan been posted on the internet by Nelms as a deflection to avoid answering the questions from Transport Scotland.

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Look at the planning department website. See submission 123. I think that is the club?s answer/plan for traffic and fan management.

What has happened over the last week or so is fairly pathetic.

Backed into a corner with nowhere to hide and with season tics due Nelmsy has a pop at transport Scotland who unlike DSA and D4 l have a pop right back.

Groundhog day wee this arse.....and yet it still goes on.

Only talks when he has to, his way or no way.........ain't gonna work dealing with public bodies.

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Originally Posted by Returnofrros

Only talks when he has to, his way or no way

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Was, is and always will be.

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Originally Posted by islaydarkblue

Bob Hynd told us back in 2018 that the Scottish Government rules for vehicles exiting from a car park onto the slip road to a flyover have been changed and vehicles were now no longer permitted to exit a car park directly onto a slip road to a flyover.
Bob said that the exit road for vehicles leaving the Kingsway West retail park onto the slip road to the Crematorium roundabout would have been banned.

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I'm fully aware of the revised slip road access regulation which is probably a well enough intentioned one. Seems overkill to me but what do I know? However, what I can't see is where the plans submitted for entry / egress to / from the site is on a slip road so your point is moot.

If the regulation had been revised prior to approval for the construction of Kingsway / McAlpine Road, Clepington Road and Kings Cross Road flyover then no doubt it wouldn't have been allowed (banned is the wrong word please do better research) and a re-design required.

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Originally Posted by Returnofrros

What has happened over the last week or so is fairly pathetic.

Backed into a corner with nowhere to hide and with season tics due Nelmsy has a pop at transport Scotland who unlike DSA and D4 l have a pop right back.

Groundhog day wee this arse.....and yet it still goes on.

Only talks when he has to, his way or no way.........ain't gonna work dealing with public bodies.

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I cannot understand why Dark Blue Property Holdings Limited want to build a new football stadium when the number of Dundee Football Club supporters regularly attending home games at Dens Park is falling every season.
There are reasons for this.
1. An aged support.
2. Divide and rule tactics by John Nelms.
3 The failure of the Dundee Football Club management to reinstate and organise the running of the Junior Dark Blues.
Most normal football clubs build a new stadium because they need to increase the capacity due to an excess demand for tickets at every home league game in their current ground.
That is certainly not the case with Dundee FC home games.
Bob Hynd told us that Nelms assumed that Dundee City Council would contribute 50% of the cost of the new stadium at Campy Nou because that is what happens in America.
If Nelms had done his homework he would have quickly discovered that Dark Blue Property Holdings Limited have to pay for the total cost of the new stadium at Campy Nou.

[QUOTE=Deeranged;40689824]I'm fully aware of the revised slip road access regulation which is probably a well enough intentioned one. Seems overkill to me but what do I know? However, what I can't see is where the plans submitted for entry / egress to / from the site is on a slip road so your point is moot.

If the regulation had been revised prior to approval for the construction of Kingsway / McAlpine Road, Clepington Road and Kings Cross Road flyover then no doubt it wouldn't have been allowed (banned is the wrong word please do better research) and a re-design required.[/QUOTE
The original plan in September 2017 was to use the previous entrance and exit road from the NCR Camperdown factory as the entrance and exit road from the new stadium car parks.
If you look at the plans for the new stadium development at Campy Nou published in December 2023 by Nelms’s latest firm of architects which showed a Computer Aided Design you will see they have shown both the entrance road from the A90 Kingsway to the new stadium car parks and a separate exit road from the new stadium car parks back onto the A90 Kingsway in breach of the laid down Scottish Government and Transport Scotland rules.

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Originally Posted by Deeranged

I'm fully aware of the revised slip road access regulation which is probably a well enough intentioned one. Seems overkill to me but what do I know? However, what I can't see is where the plans submitted for entry / egress to / from the site is on a slip road so your point is moot.

If the regulation had been revised prior to approval for the construction of Kingsway / McAlpine Road, Clepington Road and Kings Cross Road flyover then no doubt it wouldn't have been allowed (banned is the wrong word please do better research) and a re-design required.[/QUOTE
The original plan in September 2017 was to use the previous entrance and exit road from the NCR Camperdown factory as the entrance and exit road from the new stadium car parks.
If you look at the plans for the new stadium development at Campy Nou published in December 2023 by Nelms’s latest firm of architects which showed a Computer Aided Design you will see they have shown both the entrance road from the A90 Kingsway to the new stadium car parks and a separate exit road from the new stadium car parks back onto the A90 Kingsway in breach of the laid down Scottish Government and Transport Scotland rules.

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I looked at the plan issued most recently and it shows nothing of the sort.

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