OT. The futures Bright, the Futures Brexit!!!

The question in my head is will ROI residents need to go through the new security processes to travel to the Schengan area, and buy the visa waiver?

From what I understand it's no, but happy to be corrected.

If the answer is Yes then it's true that this is not a consequence of brexit. If the answer is No then it means it is very much a consequence of brexit.

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Originally Posted by ramAnag

…and no ‘lecture’ on mine. It’s just patently obvious that Brexit has had a negative impact upon those of us who wish to travel in Europe and yes, it is irritating. As you know I never believed a word of it…but we were told Brexit would improve our quality of life…it hasn’t, it’s done the exact opposite.

Just read post 9242 again. In very few words it tells you all you need to know.

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Like TTR says it could be worse and it could.

It's like my brother in law stating that losing the ability to use your mobile abroad within your uk package is a small sacrifice for not having brussels making all our rules, despite him not being able to name a single rule that's been forced on us.

That's the message isn't it, it could be worse, it's no great hardship etc etc.

Like you say it was supposed to be better, for every downside there would be a vastly superior upside. My wife's haulage business is yet to see any upside despite many many downsides, I'm sure they aren't alone.

Still, my brother in law complaining about the cost to obtain the relevant certification for their dog for their trip to the continent, yeah have to admit thats something I enjoyed hearing and is definitely a positive consequence from brexit for the chuckle factor, if not to his wallet.

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Originally Posted by Geoff Parkstone

Most of that stuff preceded the change in government (except the screaming unions bit, which was as predictable as Forest not winning the PL)

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absolutely, I wouldn't dream of defending them in the slightest

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Originally Posted by ramAnag

Sigh, yes…obviously…but your response identified the problem as relating to ‘Spain’ in general. My point is that Spain - as a whole - would struggle to survive without tourism whereas the problem is actually specific to certain areas, of which Mallorca is the clearest example of ‘over tourism’.

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It isn't just Majorca.
Apparently, they only wnat those that spend loads every day. Funny how times change, when Spain was a donkey country they were desperate for anyone to come.
https://www.itv.com/news/2024-04-18/...me-this-summer

Did you really think immigration could be stopped, legally, inside 4 weeks. Getting at the gangs will take a while, won't it?

Foreign Aid. Do you know why we grant most of the foreign aid we do, and I mean the real reason? If so, I'd love to see your explanation to see if it coincides with the truth.

Only a small part of it, to areas of natural disasters like 'quakes etc or excess famine is "out of the goodness of our hearts" and the real reason is the same the world over, not just in the UK

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It isn't just Majorca.
Apparently, they only wnat those that spend loads every day. Funny how times change, when Spain was a donkey country they were desperate for anyone to come.
https://www.itv.com/news/2024-04-18/...me-this-summer

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Brits and others have ruined Mallorca’s culture, what you can find is tourist-sanitised, BUT in my many visits and short period of residency I’ve yet to come across a native who actually wants to go back to the pre-tourist days

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Originally Posted by SithHappens

The question in my head is will ROI residents need to go through the new security processes to travel to the Schengan area, and buy the visa waiver?

From what I understand it's no, but happy to be corrected.

If the answer is Yes then it's true that this is not a consequence of brexit. If the answer is No then it means it is very much a consequence of brexit.

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In short no they don't.

The Entry/Exit System (EES) is an automated IT system for registering non-EU nationals travelling for a short stay, each time they cross the external borders of any of the following European countries using the system:

For the purpose of the EES, ‘non-EU national’ means a traveller not holding the nationality of any European Union country or the nationality of Iceland, Liechtenstein, Norway or Switzerland.

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Originally Posted by SithHappens

Like TTR says it could be worse and it could.

It's like my brother in law stating that losing the ability to use your mobile abroad within your uk package is a small sacrifice for not having brussels making all our rules, despite him not being able to name a single rule that's been forced on us.

That's the message isn't it, it could be worse, it's no great hardship etc etc.

Like you say it was supposed to be better, for every downside there would be a vastly superior upside. My wife's haulage business is yet to see any upside despite many many downsides, I'm sure they aren't alone.

Still, my brother in law complaining about the cost to obtain the relevant certification for their dog for their trip to the continent, yeah have to admit thats something I enjoyed hearing and is definitely a positive consequence from brexit for the chuckle factor, if not to his wallet.

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A far cry from the promises made that it would not be much different being outside the EU and the Uk would still have the benefits it had under membership. Ah well once the dunderheads have died off, re-entry will be a given, though of course the UK will have lost its opt outs, its veto and be required to join the Euro.

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Originally Posted by swaledale

A far cry from the promises made that it would not be much different being outside the EU and the Uk would still have the benefits it had under membership. Ah well once the dunderheads have died off, re-entry will be a given, though of course the UK will have lost its opt outs, its veto and be required to join the Euro.

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Very pleased to see the beginnings of a European ‘reset’ with the grown up meeting between Starmer and Olaf Scholz today.
We need to re establish closer links with our European neighbours and before any Leavers who remain in denial start squealing about it being the beginning of a ‘betrayal of democracy’…that began with all the lies they swallowed in the build up to the referendum and three years later with Johnson’s ‘oven ready’ Brexit deal.

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Originally Posted by ramAnag

Very pleased to see the beginnings of a European ‘reset’ with the grown up meeting between Starmer and Olaf Scholz today.
We need to re establish closer links with our European neighbours and before any Leavers who remain in denial start squealing about it being the beginning of a ‘betrayal of democracy’…that began with all the lies they swallowed in the build up to the referendum and three years later with Johnson’s ‘oven ready’ Brexit deal.

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I’m fine with what Starmer said (if he sticks to it). Closer links great, the Brexit deal was too harsh, no return to EU membership because it was the will of the people, no return to the customs union because with it would come the free movement not only of actually useful folk but also people like the Scroat who nabbed my telly