No determination, no taking responsibility, no pride

[lancaster100]

Well lets start with a positive amongst many negatives. The passing was much better, but that is it. The back line is horrendous Vithino, Dakhil, O'Shea and Delcroix not one is able to mark be positionally right. These four are weak and take no responsibility for their actions or position. They are the worst back line I have ever witnessed in Burnley shirts. They are disgraceful I do not see one of them throwing themselves to block a shot or header. Pathetic professionals. So that is my take on the back line, so forward a little and irrespective of last years performances Cullen wants to much time and his control is poor and slow of thought. Unfortunately the forwards are just not good enough not one is capable of holding the ball for others to join in. It would be an impossible job for any manager to get a tune of this lot of rubbish. I did think Muric looked loads better than Trafford and should keep his place and I thought Redmond was quite reasonable. As I have said the passing was better but it is still to slow and players wanting to much time. I cannot see one single player taking the attitude of "right if nothing else I am going to charge round the pitch and bash as many players as possible. It is simply a lack of determination, lack of pride no one is even trying to gee up the team.

[ClaretinBudapest]

Sound spot on to me Lancaster but VK bought these players.We are a shadow of last years team.

[army88]

Well lets start with a positive amongst many negatives. The passing was much better, but that is it. The back line is horrendous Vithino, Dakhil, O'Shea and Delcroix not one is able to mark be positionally right. These four are weak and take no responsibility for their actions or position. They are the worst back line I have ever witnessed in Burnley shirts. They are disgraceful I do not see one of them throwing themselves to block a shot or header. Pathetic professionals. So that is my take on the back line, so forward a little and irrespective of last years performances Cullen wants to much time and his control is poor and slow of thought. Unfortunately the forwards are just not good enough not one is capable of holding the ball for others to join in. It would be an impossible job for any manager to get a tune of this lot of rubbish. I did think Muric looked loads better than Trafford and should keep his place and I thought Redmond was quite reasonable. As I have said the passing was better but it is still to slow and players wanting to much time. I cannot see one single player taking the attitude of "right if nothing else I am going to charge round the pitch and bash as many players as possible. It is simply a lack of determination, lack of pride no one is even trying to gee up the team.

There isn’t a leader Lancaster and there is zero communication either 2nd goal was isolate cullen with Tarky at back post , 1st we let the ball be delivered again and the centre backs didn’t mark Tarky.
Dakhil got outpaced out muscled for third and we defend like statues.

So I said last week I still behind Kompany but I’m starting to have my doubts as we do not improve in shape - togetherness- tactics and it is worrying if we carry on that way.

On tonight’s showing Redmond has plenty to offer he’s intelligent and can still cut it , I also still like Larson he has potential ( if you put better players around him I’d bet he’d thrive ).

It would be unfair not to say Berge improved slightly today.

As for Muric I can’t see the logic , the risks he takes distribution wise are poor and his only attempt at catching tonight resulted in missing it completely and they should have scored. ( incidentally we still conceded 3 ).

We are slow and laboured and are missing a captain with some *******s -,we can’t retain possession unless it s backwards then we’re very good at it narrowing play and forcing our keeper into risks.

The whole thing is a fek in shambles if it’s like that Saturday they’ll get booed off.

We are what can only be described as inept

[FromTheDarkness]

And they are moaning and asking why the atmosphere is lacking - performance. Personally couldn't give a **** about the results, if we show signs of working towards something, if we show effort and desire and fight but loose games, the crowd would be on their side.

Its piss poor performances week after week individually and as a team.. its all lacking - that's why the atmosphere is ****e

[The Bedlington Terrier]

There isn’t a leader Lancaster and there is zero communication either 2nd goal was isolate cullen with Tarky at back post , 1st we let the ball be delivered again and the centre backs didn’t mark Tarky.
Dakhil got outpaced out muscled for third and we defend like statues.

So I said last week I still behind Kompany but I’m starting to have my doubts as we do not improve in shape - togetherness- tactics and it is worrying if we carry on that way.

On tonight’s showing Redmond has plenty to offer he’s intelligent and can still cut it , I also still like Larson he has potential ( if you put better players around him I’d bet he’d thrive ).

It would be unfair not to say Berge improved slightly today.

As for Muric I can’t see the logic , the risks he takes distribution wise are poor and his only attempt at catching tonight resulted in missing it completely and they should have scored. ( incidentally we still conceded 3 ).

We are slow and laboured and are missing a captain with some *******s -,we can’t retain possession unless it s backwards then we’re very good at it narrowing play and forcing our keeper into risks.

The whole thing is a fek in shambles if it’s like that Saturday they’ll get booed off.

We are what can only be described as inept

And you wanted shut of "Dycheball"

[army88]

And you wanted shut of "Dycheball"

I’d still stand by that Bt it was boring and has run it’s course - we got done by what Sean’s sides are workmanlike- although we aren’t even competing really there are gaps all over to be exploited- Dyche must have been rubbing his hands two centre backs no experience at this level , young weak and naive.

Calvert lewin took the piss and we simply gifted them what they wanted a goal start , no pressure to stop the cross being delivered, no body marking Tarky - his free header was good but a gift,

When you analyse all that it don’t look good does it ? But then get to the other end and the problems are multiplied by 10 we offered nothing in the way of a threat and yet still had lots of possession.

The stats will read well and VK I’m sure will say well we don’t take our chances we had good possession and a large chunk of the game.

Transition is a problem either way imo anyway I joked on another thread that we only train in half a pitch and there are no goals on it - but reality is it maybe true- the game is to score goals and we simply don’t look like we can do that - it’s laboured and we are slow and give possession away too much.

I’m surprised at Kompany really having forged a brilliant career at this level he knows what’s required and at the minute we are a million miles away from it - we look like we need a leader and also like we can get players to roll sleeves up and support each other - it will have to happen soon or we’ll be down anyway.

I’ve posted before re this problem at Burnley we are simply too Nice - only think is this time around we don’t have the players with the heart to change it - all the flair in world doesn’t get you heart and desire - these bits were lacking imo anyway.

[The Bedlington Terrier]

I’d still stand by that Bt it was boring and has run it’s course - we got done by what Sean’s sides are workmanlike- although we aren’t even competing really there are gaps all over to be exploited- Dyche must have been rubbing his hands two centre backs no experience at this level , young weak and naive.

Calvert lewin took the piss and we simply gifted them what they wanted a goal start , no pressure to stop the cross being delivered, no body marking Tarky - his free header was good but a gift,

When you analyse all that it don’t look good does it ? But then get to the other end and the problems are multiplied by 10 we offered nothing in the way of a threat and yet still had lots of possession.

The stats will read well and VK I’m sure will say well we don’t take our chances we had good possession and a large chunk of the game.

Transition is a problem either way imo anyway I joked on another thread that we only train in half a pitch and there are no goals on it - but reality is it maybe true- the game is to score goals and we simply don’t look like we can do that - it’s laboured and we are slow and give possession away too much.

I’m surprised at Kompany really having forged a brilliant career at this level he knows what’s required and at the minute we are a million miles away from it - we look like we need a leader and also like we can get players to roll sleeves up and support each other - it will have to happen soon or we’ll be down anyway.

I’ve posted before re this problem at Burnley we are simply too Nice - only think is this time around we don’t have the players with the heart to change it - all the flair in world doesn’t get you heart and desire - these bits were lacking imo anyway.

Rolling over and having your tummy tickled were not requisites of playing for Sean Dyche army88. What Kompany is serving up is utter garbage. I'm shocked at just how bad we are.

[Turf_Forever]

And they are moaning and asking why the atmosphere is lacking - performance. Personally couldn't give a **** about the results, if we show signs of working towards something, if we show effort and desire and fight but loose games, the crowd would be on their side.

Its piss poor performances week after week individually and as a team.. its all lacking - that's why the atmosphere is ****e

I agree with this and fed this back on the survey.

One of the biggest ways they could improve atmosphere, even if we are losing, is for the players to get stuck in. Flatten the opposition player and then whip the crowd up. Even if we win a corner, gee the crowd up and show passion. Newcastle are doing this in the Champions League and it keeps the geordie crowd going.

[ballcock]

I went to Bournemouth and Everton and that's the lot for me on the road until we see some improvements. If we embarrass ourselves against Palace I think a walk out on the 85th minutes will give Pace food for thought, as this shambles of a season can't go on

[army88]

Rolling over and having your tummy tickled were not requisites of playing for Sean Dyche army88. What Kompany is serving up is utter garbage. I'm shocked at just how bad we are.

Tbf - people have short memories, yes it’s not good at the minute because we can’t defend - if you go back to Dyche ers that’s all we could do for 80 mins in a game.

Typically Dyche yesterday tbh we had our fair share of the ball / possession and yet his side got three goals with minimal possession.

I think he watched Basset at Wimbledon when they interviewed him about Wimbledon tactics he answered with a question

He said what happens in the last 10-15 mins of a game if you’re behind and chasing the game. -
Pundit answered push big men up front and lump it is generally what happens

Correct says Bassett but we do it for 90 mins not just the chasing 10 mins if losing - it works he said.