46 Game Mark

[St Kitts Magpie]

Not sure if my calculations are correct but today was our 46th League game under IB. ( 50% win ratio)
Obviously spread over 2 seasons but wanted to know if anyone knows how that compares with what would normally get a team promoted out of this league?

[Elite_Pie]

UTM posted this a few days ago when comparing Burchnall with Ardley:

5th tier league and play off fixtures.....

Home
Ardley - 1.86 PPG
Burchnall - 2.09 PPG

Away
Ardley - 1.50 PPG
Burchnall - 1.30 PPG

Home and Away
Ardley - 1.70 PPG
Burchnall - 1.69 PPG

Ardley had 66 games in charge at this level
Burchnall now on 45 played (exactly the same as Keith Curle had).

Usually around 2 points per game is required for the automatic place. The form we are showing is worthy of a playoff place.

[St Kitts Magpie]

Ok. Thanks for that. didn't realise the home and away overall was so close between the 2

[upthemaggies]

It's 46 matches in charge now for Burch including the two play off games.

Today's win takes Burch back above Ardley overall on PPG

Averages (including play offs but not cups).....
Neal Ardley 1.70 (W 47% D 29% L 24%) GPG 1.52 APG 0.95
Ian Burchnall 1.72 (W 50% D 22% L 28%) GPG 1.80 APG 1.20

Totals (including play off but not cups).....
Ardley - Pld:66 W:31 D:19 L:16 F:100 A:63 GD:+37 pts:112
Burch - Pld:46 W:23 D:10 L:13 F:83 A:55 GD:+28 pts:79


Including cups Burch has had 54 games in charge and Ardley would then be ahead having won more FA trophy ties
Neal Ardley 1.79
Ian Burchnall 1.74

[upthemaggies]

Forgot to mention the above is all 5th tier seasons only.

If you include Ardley's 4th tier results his stats go right down, but to compare like for like we have to compare 5th tier results only.


Edit: For the record
Ardley's overall league PPG (including Play offs AND 4th tier results) is 1.49, with cups it's 1.57

[legs77]

Forgot to mention the above is all 5th tier seasons only.

If you include Ardley's 4th tier results his stats go right down, but to compare like for like we have to compare 5th tier results only.


Edit: For the record
Ardley's overall league PPG (including Play offs AND 4th tier results) is 1.49, with cups it's 1.57

I dont think you should do 5th tier only as Ardley then has the advantage of "looking" at the team for half a season and an extra transfer window.

Cups are best to be left off as it depends how easy the draw is whilst the league will remain the same.

[queenslandpie]

So nothing to choose between the two of them really on paper. We now play more attacking football score more and let more in. We are still poor away from home a lot. We are still only good enough to get in the play offs. Whilst it was time for Ardley to go on that basis the upgrade is very much a work in progress.

[Chicken Balti Pie]

So nothing to choose between the two of them really on paper. We now play more attacking football score more and let more in. We are still poor away from home a lot. We are still only good enough to get in the play offs. Whilst it was time for Ardley to go on that basis the upgrade is very much a work in progress.

I'd also argue the profile of the squad has changed as well. Ardley's first season had a very experienced football league set up in Wootton, Dennis, Thomas and Tyson supported by Enzio.

Now we have a lot younger less experienced players but potentially better forwards for the future but perhaps not quite yet

[laddo]

So nothing to choose between the two of them really on paper. We now play more attacking football score more and let more in. We are still poor away from home a lot. We are still only good enough to get in the play offs. Whilst it was time for Ardley to go on that basis the upgrade is very much a work in progress.

Decent summary that QLD, on paper not much to choose between them. On the pitch big difference.

CBP also makes a very good point regarding squad profile, much healthier looking.

[queenslandpie]

Decent summary that QLD, on paper not much to choose between them. On the pitch big difference.

CBP also makes a very good point regarding squad profile, much healthier looking.

More to do with football radar statistics people than either Ardley or Birchnall I would have thought but yeah it is for sure. Was great to see Nemane come in and do a job on the weekend. Seemed pretty chuffed in his interview.

Medium term I believe still we will achieve a lot more with Birchnall then we ever would have done with Ardley. He had naturally reached the end of his tenure and his frustration was clear to see in the final few interviews after games.