O/T Well it looks like White Lives don't matter.

[Godsend.F.C.]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/53167705

Sean Dyche reckons people are getting more educated.

The bloke that organized the banner fly by has been sacked from his employment.

[Grist_To_The_Mill]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/53167705

Sean Dyche reckons people are getting more educated.

The bloke that organized the banner fly by has been sacked from his employment.

Hmmm......that should make an interesting unfair dismissal claim

[Godsend.F.C.]

Hmmm......that should make an interesting unfair dismissal claim

They could make it a double claim, his girlfriend has also been relieved of her duties as well.

[CAMiller]

I sometimes wonder if I'm living on a different planet to some people and I probably am and it explains the 'rift' in thoughts.

You'll all have heard of the Autonomous Zone/Organised Protest zone in Seattle. Basically the city's East Precinct that was 'abandoned' by police/fire/medical services just after the start of the BLM protests when after many nights of protest/stand offs/police action and the subsequent banning of police use of tear gas/pepper spray/rubber bullets they retreated to 'deescalate' the situation. Over the ensuing 3 weeks the zone has become a cross between a daytime 'love in' and a nighttime 'no go zone'. In the early hours of Saturday morning a 19 year old black lad was shot and killed inside the zone. Police were met with hostility when responding to the 911 call so refused to enter as did medical services without police backup.

Yesterday the mother and grandmother of the victim were interviewed on TV. So who was to blame for his death. The lad for being in a dangerous area at 1am in the morning. No. BLM. No. The gunman. Not mentioned. The Police. Yes.

Will we ever be able to close this gap in the perception of law and order?

[KerrAvon]

You are behind the trend, Cam. I'm sure that some posters on here will be able to put you right - m'kay. It is clear that you still believe in 'personal responsibilty'. It's far easier to blame the police, or politicians, or big business or a host of other things than it is to accept any individual fault or error.

Kennedy warned about the trend in his 'what can you do for your country' speech. Thatcher did it in a slightly more abrasive fashion in her 'there's no such thing as society' speech.

[howdydoo]

I sometimes wonder if I'm living on a different planet to some people and I probably am and it explains the 'rift' in thoughts.

You'll all have heard of the Autonomous Zone/Organised Protest zone in Seattle. Basically the city's East Precinct that was 'abandoned' by police/fire/medical services just after the start of the BLM protests when after many nights of protest/stand offs/police action and the subsequent banning of police use of tear gas/pepper spray/rubber bullets they retreated to 'deescalate' the situation. Over the ensuing 3 weeks the zone has become a cross between a daytime 'love in' and a nighttime 'no go zone'. In the early hours of Saturday morning a 19 year old black lad was shot and killed inside the zone. Police were met with hostility when responding to the 911 call so refused to enter as did medical services without police backup.

Yesterday the mother and grandmother of the victim were interviewed on TV. So who was to blame for his death. The lad for being in a dangerous area at 1am in the morning. No. BLM. No. The gunman. Not mentioned. The Police. Yes.

Will we ever be able to close this gap in the perception of law and order?

If you think it’s anyone else to blame but the police you are a racist.

Well, probably in the minds of 60% of the millersmad (and friends) massive, you are.

[great_fire]

They could make it a double claim, his girlfriend has also been relieved of her duties as well.

Even the police said it wasn't racist.

We're moving towards a socialist-authoritarian world government based on the Chinese model.

As for the OP, an Indian lecturer at Cambridge University has twice tweeted that "white lives don't matter" and been defended by the university so it appears he's correct.

[Slimchance]

Two minute google search using "BBC right wing bias/anti labour bias" brought up these in the first page.

(not saying I agree with any of them by the way re: the BBC. Just showing that extremists on both sides have the same complaints over Auntie

https://theconversation.com/bbc-caug...n-story-128639

https://www.culturematters.org.uk/in...ight-wing-bias

https://www.theguardian.com/media/20...s-of-tory-bias

https://morningstaronline.co.uk/arti...ainst-bbc-bias

https://www.thecanary.co/uk/analysis...-legal-action/

https://www.counterfire.org/articles...it-for-purpose

Thanks Mr pup for the long boring reads hear is my take on them

1. It shows bad lazy journalisn
2. As interrogaters go Andrew Neil isn't bias, he gives everyone a good kicking and if you used fictitious facts during the interview his team check them and he nails you. The piece also seem to mix general media bias to make points and then uses that to criticize the BBC alone.
3 and 4 I didn't read as I don't take cookies from sites I don't like.
5. They claim criticizing Corbyn is bias, how could they not ?
6. Overly long piece to say Corbyn is a nice bloke. He may well be but he isn't a leader

[ragingpup]

Thanks Mr pup for the long boring reads hear is my take on them

1. It shows bad lazy journalisn
2. As interrogaters go Andrew Neil isn't bias, he gives everyone a good kicking and if you used fictitious facts during the interview his team check them and he nails you. The piece also seem to mix general media bias to make points and then uses that to criticize the BBC alone.
3 and 4 I didn't read as I don't take cookies from sites I don't like.
5. They claim criticizing Corbyn is bias, how could they not ?
6. Overly long piece to say Corbyn is a nice bloke. He may well be but he isn't a leader

I'm sure you're right. I haven't even read them. I'm just showing you (as you queried it) that there are loads of people on the extreme left that feel that the BBC is biased against them. Just as there are with people on the right (also tending towards the extreme) who feel that the BBC is biased against their side. The quality of the journalism doesn't seem to stop these people quoting lazy, biased journalists when expressing their opinions.

Not really seen much scrutiny of the 'lazy journalism' of the right wing articles that get posted on here though.

[WanChaiMiller]

Even the police said it wasn't racist.

We're moving towards a socialist-authoritarian world government based on the Chinese model.

As for the OP, an Indian lecturer at Cambridge University has twice tweeted that "white lives don't matter" and been defended by the university so it appears he's correct.

She.

The Uni was not judging her on content but simply her right to an opinion.

Shes a historian and author of the book Insurgent Empire. Im sure she knew what she was writing but dont know where she was heading with it. Whatever she meant is largely irrelevant as the tidal wave of abuse she received has drowned out any debate.