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    Quote Originally Posted by Mason89 View Post
    Teuchter paranoia

    It annoys me how much I have to defend the record of a party I’m not a fan or a member of. Stop making stuff up
    You clearly did History at school!? You won’t understand what I mean.

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    Ridiculously expensive, should be part of the free transport system, god knows why it's not.

    Up until they change that, I'll just take the airport bus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shetland Don View Post
    You clearly did History at school!? You won’t understand what I mean.
    I did f*ck all at school. You should be embarrassed that an uneducated spud like me has to walk you through this sh1t. I blame the skoolz

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mason89 View Post
    What you both have done differently with the ferries? Put everyone out a job or place your trust in the spiv because that was the only options. Every party wanted the second option & every party would’ve faced the same problem
    That’s about as sensible a question as asking who I’d want as Aberdeen’s new manager in that it’s not my job, neither is it (business speak alert) within my skill set.

    In the case you mention, representatives are elected to provide public services, and take advice to ensure that these are procured from reliable and capable (see FMEL workers’ comments on capability from the outset of the order) suppliers. There will be set deliverables on agreed timescales and an agreed budget to which the supplier must adhere or incur penalties. CMAL, as the procurement arm seems to have failed on diligence ensuring that these contractual essentials are fulfilled. That quango is wholly accountable to the Scottish Government whose response is to throw further funds at it. We are now in the situation where neither of the vessels may ever see service. It has been said that the resources spunked on these vessels, which may turn out to have scrap value only, might have been better deployed in giving potentially jobless FMAL workers a million quid each to spend in the local community.

    In short, had I been charged with taking this on, I’d have brought in Proper Mannies’ experts in nautical matters, asked the potential users what they wanted as sea-going hardware, ensured that the berthing infrastructures matched the vessels’ sizes and design, and planned for dual fuel facilities at the required berthing points before they touched the briny - if even the unnamed second hull has left the slipway yet. I’d have taken responsibility for it, including the colossal errors of judgement and (here you go Sneckie) curspurnery of the Scottish Government keen to grandstand and bask in the glory of saving jobs and skills, but want fûck all to do with righting wrongs, or admitting what a series of bôllock-dropping it’s been

    That’s the problem with having no time for experts, and government members being crippled by insecurity and borderline paranoia.

    I trust I can rely on your vote?

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    If you’d brought in experts in nautical matters, you would’ve closed the yard. That’s fine, public money would’ve been saved but every worker would’ve been out a job & the Scottish government would’ve been slaughtered for killing commercial shipbuilding on the Clyde. It was a lose/lose situation. The best outcome was trusting the spiv & hoping for the best. It didn’t work but every party would’ve done the same.

    A friend of mine is a welding foreman in there and the tales of kicking the hole out the money are pretty special. Nothing like a government contract to fund a few unemployable family

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mason89 View Post
    I did f*ck all at school. You should be embarrassed that an uneducated spud like me has to walk you through this sh1t. I blame the skoolz
    “ … walk you through this …”, what the f*** are you on about, rhetorical question. 🤣

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shetland Don View Post
    “ … walk you through this …”, what the f*** are you on about, rhetorical question. 🤣
    You’re good at answering rhetorical questions but not the one I asked.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mason89 View Post
    You’re good at answering rhetorical questions but not the one I asked.
    If you seek to ask a question, don’t make a statement and proceed it with this - ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shetland Don View Post
    If you seek to ask a question, don’t make a statement and proceed it with this - ?
    Or you could try reading the post you’re replying to properly. Would you like me to ask it again? *


    *That’s also a question

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    Don't pick on him, Shetland min, he can't help it.

    I think he knows what he means but it just doesn't translate onto the printed word very well.

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