O/T:- ⚠️Impressed with the leadership [The UK Party Politics Thread]

[The Dug Out]

You conveniently miss a lot out, as someone else just previously said in a previous post you label the centre in the middle as far right which most of us are not yet conveniently forget how the left and Islamists have turned the clock back to resemble the Nazis in the 1930s with their anti Jewish hate. You and the rest of your collective are very dangerous and more right wing than those that you berate!

Yes,well said, I just get fed up of seeing these lefty traitors waving Hamas/Hezbullah flags all overcthe GB, they are just useful idiots who would be the first to be slaughtered by the people they are sidingvwith.

[SinceSept1959]

The Labour Party have certainly deserted the working classes they were founded to represent .
I was a TU nominated CLP delegate and quit in 1982, being concerned with the direction the policies were heading back then.
Certainly a very different Party than the Harold Wilson, Barbara Castle types.
Kinnock didn't support the miners in the 1984/85 strike and it would have been interesting if the current " pro union " Party hierarchy had been around then. Of course they would have been in Opposition not Government.
Blair (Son of Thatcher) and Brown were certainly not of the Wilson ilk either.
It is naive to think that any elected Government has a free hand , being puppets rather than Leaders.
The Callaghan Government was bailed out financially and forced to follow IMF diktats which seems to have been a turning point in British politics.
Reeves looks set to press ahead with ruthlessly targeted taxes and despite vowing to improve public transport, is tipped to remove the £2 bus fare cap in December.
To sum it all up, it seems that they are eagerly carrying out policies that are being formulated in Davos, rather than promoting the wishes of the electorate. The PM himself, on record of stating an allegiance.

[cher1]

Whilst I totally object to poorer OAPs having their winter fuel allowance stopped I do know a lot of OAPs who don’t need it and they admit it.
If it’s properly means tested it’s really not that unfair is it ?

The trouble is though that it's estimated around 760,000 eligible older people aren't claiming pension credit. They're likely to be the most vulnerable, so people like those suffering with dementia, disabilities or socially isolated. They'll lose the fuel allowance.

[SwalePie]

As the content of thread titled 'The Chagossians' has become the same as this one, I've merged them.

[PedroTheFisherman66]

Well done Labour in only 100 days of power being more unpopular than the Tories, being the worst, clueless, dividing, corrupt two their government ever, well done 👍 the future looks so bright!

Off course all the headlines from the tory press ! Dismissing the 23 Billion pound black hole that has lead to cuts. Why not focus on the old regime the designed the overspend to lead us where we are today. Know wonder the Tories were vocal about rising taxes from labour because they knew their hidden bomb would lead to increases when it was eventually uncovered ..

[SwalePie]

As the content of thread titled 'Congratulations' has become the same as this one, I've merged them.

[keldsyke]

Off course all the headlines from the tory press ! Dismissing the 23 Billion pound black hole that has lead to cuts. Why not focus on the old regime the designed the overspend to lead us where we are today. Know wonder the Tories were vocal about rising taxes from labour because they knew their hidden bomb would lead to increases when it was eventually uncovered ..

Most of us have concentrated on the rabble that was in before, disastrous comes to mind but again you have to balance it and that’s what yourself, BFP, Och etc (I’ve ommited Elite as he came on here and posted about Labours disasters with some balanced views) unfortunately until you accept that all the parties are as bad as each other and stop thinking that Liebour are any different this act of constant denial will continue. Top and bottom of it is that we are in an even worse place than the Tories left with the deniers blaming this fictitious 22 Billion black hole.

[OP67]

The trouble is though that it's estimated around 760,000 eligible older people aren't claiming pension credit. They're likely to be the most vulnerable, so people like those suffering with dementia, disabilities or socially isolated. They'll lose the fuel allowance.

Martin Lewis' interview with Lisa Nandy the other day was a complete car crash for Nandy. She seemed to think that the 40,000 new applications for pension credit was excellent. Lewis pointed out the 720,000 that will not be able to get their winter fuel benefit was a disgrace. He was absolutely livid and so he should be.
I agree those that have the money should not be gotting it but the cut off is far too low. It needs to be a proper sliding scale but tehy say that'll cost more than everyone getting the money, how?!!! Don't the government use computers to automatically do this???

[SinceSept1959]

Martin Lewis' interview with Lisa Nandy the other day was a complete car crash for Nandy. She seemed to think that the 40,000 new applications for pension credit was excellent. Lewis pointed out the 720,000 that will not be able to get their winter fuel benefit was a disgrace. He was absolutely livid and so he should be.
I agree those that have the money should not be gotting it but the cut off is far too low. It needs to be a proper sliding scale but tehy say that'll cost more than everyone getting the money, how?!!! Don't the government use computers to automatically do this???

Far too sensible comments.
Common sense long since sacrificed on the altar of PC policies.

[Thordardaughter]

The trouble is though that it's estimated around 760,000 eligible older people aren't claiming pension credit. They're likely to be the most vulnerable, so people like those suffering with dementia, disabilities or socially isolated. They'll lose the fuel allowance.

That’s not a fault of the current government. As I said help with that sort of claiming and proper means testing would help those in need so the benefits go to the right people.