Barnet

[MikeSB]

My opinion, for what it is worth, is that we were far from our best against Barnet. That said, it is a game in which we created enough chances to have won the game twice over without the penalties. We just are not clinical enough in front of goal. I am ignoring the constant harping on about too many coaches and it is a job for one man. There aren't and it isn't.
March should have taken both penalties, he is a striker when all said and done. But apart from the first 20 minutes when Barnet were the better team, we were on top the whole game until injury time when it appeared that belief deserted the players. The game was not helped by a dreadful referee who should have fished his red card out in the first half and then spent the next 70 minutes making some bizarre decisions none of which went our way. The ref is not why we lost but he did nothing for the game but let them get away with mauling our players all afternoon.
Onward and upward

I will keep harping on about the academy, too many managers and coaches until the cows come home and of course there are too many of them. What does the asst manager do week on week. what does Kenny Lunt do? Not three of them gave the team news and they had a 'first team coach' according to Mcgarry.

Remember please that all of these coaches and managers have to be paid and LB said we cannot afford the wages to get players here. I say go back to how football was played for over a 100 years here and we had far better players then and one manager, one trainer and no academy. Yup you can keep harping on some fans or most fans. I played this game and did not need one coach to teach me how to dribble, pass a ball, take a throw in, or a corner or anything and now some of you people think we cannot manage without a million pound academy. I say that such fans anywhere do not know what they are talking about re football. Barnet and Colchester were in the very bottom half of the table and we could not beat them. A million pound a year wasted I say!

Its obvious that the so called coaching and managers have created a problem based on the last few games and the Chairman needs to be strong and change it all. The academy has had its day and imo never needed!

[MikeSB]

I will keep harping on about the academy, too many managers and coaches until the cows come home and of course there are too many of them. What does the asst manager do week on week. what does Kenny Lunt do? Not three of them gave the team news and they had a 'first team coach' according to Mcgarry.

Remember please that all of these coaches and managers have to be paid and LB said we cannot afford the wages to get players here. I say go back to how football was played for over a 100 years here and we had far better players then and one manager, one trainer and no academy. Yup you can keep harping on some fans or most fans. I played this game and did not need one coach to teach me how to dribble, pass a ball, take a throw in, or a corner or anything and now some of you people think we cannot manage without a million pound academy. I say that such fans anywhere do not know what they are talking about re football. Barnet and Colchester were in the very bottom half of the table and we could not beat them. A million pound a year wasted I say!

Its obvious that the so called coaching and managers have created a problem based on the last few games and the Chairman needs to be strong and change it all. The academy has had its day and imo never needed!

You want to talk about football and so someone from the club needs to answer the question about practising penalties. Who takes them and do they practice doing them ina. full weeks training at the academy. LB and the Chairman should start answering these questions but nonody on here is asking them and you think you know about football?

Go and watch the match between Grimsby and ManU where players there scored 10 and 11 pens. And we missed two out of two. Good coaching at one million pounds per year hey!

[gazan]

Anyone would think only Crewe had coaches!
Real Madrid, Liverpool and Man City plus almost all other elite teams have coaches but don't let facts interfere.
As for Warnock, he was a great disruptor and never attempted to play attractive football. He never managed any of the above teams.

[MikeSB]

Anyone would think only Crewe had coaches!
Real Madrid, Liverpool and Man City plus almost all other elite teams have coaches but don't let facts interfere.
As for Warnock, he was a great disruptor and never attempted to play attractive football. He never managed any of the above teams.

Now then. You went to the match yesterday and so why not give your appraisal of the match?

Any comment on the two missed penalties and what do they need to do to correct that?

All those clubs you mentioned. ie in almost every football club in the last what 30 years have loads of managers and coaches. Mourhino seems unable to coach or manage a team nowadays and it's not for lack of coaches and so why is that? Anything to do with the quality of the players. Ditto ManU?

Neil Warnock is saying the obvious. WHY do you need coaches and managers to be able to 'pass the ball?

I wonder how many fans on here actually played this game before we had coaches and academies? NOBODY taught or coached players in the past and they were based on exactly what Neil stated. ie by watching them to see if they can play football. Nobody on this earth can say if a 5 year old or 10 year old or even a 17 year old can play this game and so why spend a million pounds a season to try and do that?

These ARE the facts which you seem to ignore like many others on here who seemed to enjoy criticizing other fans instead of what is wrong with our team now? What has happened since the first four games?

[gazan]

Back to football: yesterday was poor. Yes we had lots of chances, including penalties but it was unconvincing again. And this is the problem. Nothing to do with just having coaches, but connected to somebody making wrong decisions. The first 4 games were characterised by a full press, groups of Alex players hunting down the ball and snapping into tackles and shooting on sight. The last 3 games have been characterised by NOT doing any of those things. Why not? Is the manager not asking them to do that? Are the players just not doing as they're told? Either it's a problem.
Another one is substitutions: there seems to be no plan for what the substitutions are employed for. That is, apart from the 60 minute one which is meant to save the legs of a player of uncertain fitness. Yesterday that was Holicek, who at the time was still full of running.
He brings us to another point. We have 2 really excellent players on the ball: O'Reilly and Holicek. There's also Rankine and Sanders who can be tricky with their feet. With players of their ability on the ball we should be opening up opposition defences a lot of the time.
O'Reilly lived up to this promise yesterday and Holicek looked very likely with a few more games under his belt. However, the intensity wasn't there. The early games, particularly the one at Salford, showed a tremendous amount of movement off the ball. Yesterday that rarely happened.
Is the clock ticking?

[Timmy58]

Now then. You went to the match yesterday and so why not give your appraisal of the match?

Any comment on the two missed penalties and what do they need to do to correct that?

All those clubs you mentioned. ie in almost every football club in the last what 30 years have loads of managers and coaches. Mourhino seems unable to coach or manage a team nowadays and it's not for lack of coaches and so why is that? Anything to do with the quality of the players. Ditto ManU?

Neil Warnock is saying the obvious. WHY do you need coaches and managers to be able to 'pass the ball?

I wonder how many fans on here actually played this game before we had coaches and academies? NOBODY taught or coached players in the past and they were based on exactly what Neil stated. ie by watching them to see if they can play football. Nobody on this earth can say if a 5 year old or 10 year old or even a 17 year old can play this game and so why spend a million pounds a season to try and do that?

These ARE the facts which you seem to ignore like many others on here who seemed to enjoy criticizing other fans instead of what is wrong with our team now? What has happened since the first four games?

On the off chance you are right about coaches not being needed (btw, you are not right), how do you propose to improve players? Or dou you think players can't be improved?

[MikeSB]

On the off chance you are right about coaches not being needed (btw, you are not right), how do you propose to improve players? Or dou you think players can't be improved?

How do you know that I am not right? You know more than Jimmy Greaves and Neil Warnock?

Thanks for the question.

I keeo referring to the old days not that long ago. Players were bought into clubs based on their ability and we know now that most older players have better or more consistent skills than younger players and why is that do you think? In my view its to do with physical ability improving and players learning toplay better based on the experience of playing games. You have heard LB saying the academy and younger players need to be playing games week in and week out and not sitting on the bench and so we know experience is the key and not coaching, otherwise no player needs to go out on loan if we are supposed to have one of the better academies.

This is backed up by my own experience of playing in local football and I was a much better player at 23 than I was when I was younger as again I was physically stronger and learned how to play the game better by playing and watching other players who were better than I was, like in all teams we have that difference.

I use Frank Lord as a great example. Nobody could head a ball like Frank and he still has the most hat tricks here at the club and probably 90% were headed goals as he was hopeless with his feet.

I don't use my opinion on coaching and management based on causing a different opinion on a football forum but based on actual life and experience and each situation like missing two penalties need an answer by the manager why that was? Does he have one or two pen takers and do they practise taking them at RH the whole time as they do have plenty of time imv. The manager should explain the situation and McGarry should have asked him and I really wish he would get out of the habit of thanking the manager at the start of each interview when its part of the contract to do so...

Schools football has virtually stopped now as most of the playing fields have gone and why parents take their kids to academies. But we should remember that kids are at school most of the day and need someone to take them to these academies and really the government/council should pay for that and not the club. Its ridiculous to spend a million pounds on wages for mostly low league pro footballers who in fairness are not thought of as having much intelligence LOL!

Just

[MikeSB]

When I was playing local football, my manager said I was good enough to play in the football league. Now where did I learn them skills when there were no coaches or academies and the answer is self explanatory!

[lukcour]

How many more games are we going to be forced to view inferior tactics. Yes we had chances yesterday but Barnet were the better team and wanted the win more. We are once again playing hoofball and casually giving the ball away. We look like an unhappy team who have no faith in our managements tactics. Get back to how we played the first 4 games.

[Timmy58]

How many more games are we going to be forced to view inferior tactics. Yes we had chances yesterday but Barnet were the better team and wanted the win more. We are once again playing hoofball and casually giving the ball away. We look like an unhappy team who have no faith in our managements tactics. Get back to how we played the first 4 games.

I disagree that Barnet looked the better team. They did for the first 20 minutes and then for the last 8 (injury time) when I thought we were really poor. But for 70 minutes WE were the better team. We just didn't make it count. I wish I knew why we are not as good as we were in the first 4 games. Not sure anyone can answer that, because the players are pretty much the same apart from Conor Thomas missing the last few games.