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    I sort of get where you're coming from too Angry and I agree about the fact that criticising the 'Leave' vote as being 'uneducated' is elitist crap.
    Having said that I don't believe 'the people spoke'. Approximately 36% (52% of 71%) of the people are being listened to representing something like a 3.8% majority of those that voted and obviously a minority of the electorate as a whole. The rest are being ignored.
    In a General Election where there may be five or more candidates such 'minority majorities' are to be expected and are acceptable, but surely not in a 'two horse race'.
    Some say, 'who cares about those that didn't vote...sod 'em'...but, imo, that isn't fair. There are four principle reasons for 29% not voting...1) disinterest 2) inability through illness, work, holidays...whatever 3) those who genuinely didn't feel they knew enough to decide 4) the notorious and long standing difficulty of getting a sizeable student population to be sure of where their electoral role address should be...home or college base.
    Surely if there's going to be a referendum, and I admit I think they're a bloody stupid idea...when else do we let 'the people' decide in this way...which war to support, how high vat should be, should Education or the NHS get more?...then both the level of participation and the result itself have got to be conclusive. In this case they weren't. The resulting likely action is only supported by a minority of the electorate and that for me is not democratic.
    I also believe there are questions that must be asked about who is eligible to vote. The last time there was anything like this was forty one years ago. By that reckoning today's seven**** year olds who had no say will be nearly sixty next time there's a chance. Now I know there are plenty of six**** and seven**** year olds who aren't sensible enough to vote - although old enough to join the Army - but there's plenty who are and, with respect to the elderly, there's as many octogenarians who wouldn't have had a clue what they were doing and would have forgotten what they'd done by the time they'd left the polling booth and yet they're entitled. So someone who is going to have to live with this decision for the next half a century gets less say than someone who might have a couple of years left. Bit brutal I know but somethings not right.
    All in all we've had a taste of the chaos and I fully accept things have to change but not, imo, like this. This isn't fair and it isn't democratic. I know some will say I'm a bitter loser but this isn't a last minute disputed goal, it's all our futures that people are currently playing politics with and too important to make such a huge mistake over.
    Sorry...rant over...bloody Southgate...don't believe it!

    P.S. 100% in agreement with Swale about people being misled by the lies that have been told and yes, I wouldn't have agreed, but if this decision had been taken by a Parliamentary democracy I wouldn't have felt wronged.
    Last edited by ramAnag; 28-06-2016 at 08:29 PM.

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