To be honest 123, I don't know who to believe about what any more. What I do believe is that many of us who have been on different sides of the divide want the same thing, a leader and party with integrity, the ability to do their various jobs and to give the electorate pride in those that govern us. At this moment in time, I don't feel that any of the present parties have these qualities and few of the individuals. A sad indictment of the state of our politics.