McClean whinging again.

[John2]

LOL, OK, I have you sussed out... bible basher.

You probably watch and listen to the BBC's drivel (paid for by extortion).

Wrong.

You never answer any specific criticisms of your sinister, horrible and clearly dangerous Wokery religion (e.g. the RAF recruitment madness).

All I've said is that I'm capitalist and that I'm also uncomfortable with people going through male puberty winning women's sporting competitions.

What on earth is wrong with Christians? In the last century they have done far less harm than your nasty destructive Marxist friends. "Critical Race Theory" like the other "Critical Theories" is an idiotic dogma without any foundation in fact and it is being forcibly imposed on our helpless children against the will and even without the knowledge of their parents by very ignorant and irresponsible adults in an atmosphere of fear. It is being enabled by extreme left-wing policies in the establishment and I am sorry to say in central government.

Nothing wrong with "Christians", but Christianity is an outdated, irrelevant nonsense that is used to divide humans. Religions are poisonous ideologies that encourage us to look at each other based on our religion rather than as fellow human beings.

The words in the bible are used to orchestrate many acts of oppression and have been through history.

Whatever you think about Christianity (which is not without its own loonies e.g., creationists), at least it gave us glorious culture - music, art and architecture. All we have ever had from Marxism is misery.

Marxist culture has been crap, I agree, I'm no supporter of communism, as you have already been told and ignored.

Culture is subjective.

I was baptised and used to get taken to church as a kid and found the services unbelievably boring and tedious. I wouldn't subject my children to that.

Boring old songs, the same ones every week that people have been singing for hundreds of years. yawn.

I was in Rome last week, and I confess there is some stunning architecture. But we also have exceptional modern architecture for non religious buildings too.

I can honestly say I find immersing in the hedonism and light show of a good music festival literally 1000x more entertaining and a greater contribution to culture than going to church on a Sunday. Driven by technology and science I've seen more innovation in festivals and entertainment in the last 10 years than in 1000 years of the stagnant churches. That's my opinion, I'm sure you'd hate the festivals too, you are entitled to prefer being brainwashed at boring church services.

What you don't get and I will not allow is this self-righteous belief that the culture you enjoy is "better" than mine. It's not based on anything other than your own ignorance.

I've been around long enough to recognise brainwashing when I see it. Any rational person would rather have their children educated by intelligent, caring, knowledgeable Christians than by shadowy secretive characters who are straight out of a John Wyndham novel.

No sh*t. A hell of a straw man.

You'd rather have your kids raised by intelligent, caring, knowledgeable Marxists than by shadowy secretive child abusers.But you're more likely to find the latter in a position of power in a church.

In the end you have a big advantage over those of us who oppose you in online arguments - your opponents are the ones who can find themselves in court accused of "crimes".

And yet still, silence... name one of these things people used to be able to say that they can't now?

I've not had a single example.