Quote Originally Posted by John2 View Post
LOL. You actually believe this don't you?

You must have conveniently forgotten about the dark ages. There is a clear correlation between secularism and the advancement of technology.

On CRT, I went to Clifton Comp in the 90s, one of the worst performing in the town.

I know full well how tough working-class white kids from Rotherham have it.

Do you think a working-class person with otherwise identical qualifications, experiences, and personality as me, but of Pakistani ancestry, has otherwise identical prospects at a job interview?

Let me put that question a different way...

If the people of millers mad were collectively interviewing for a job, and they have identical working-class candidates in all areas except ethnicity... who do you think they would hire?

We know the answer. Acknowledging and being aware of these things isn't racist. Not that that's necessarily what CRT is.

My point is, just because white working-class people also have it tough, it doesn't mean we can't also consider the implications of race in our society.
No other civilization in the world produced the science and technology that came via our culture. And that was in spite of the Greeks, the Arabs and the Chinese etc having a head start (by at least the odd thousand or two thousand years).

Having been the equivalent of a Pakistani in a highly xenophoebic European country for more years than I care to remember, I can sincerely say that I have never felt a need for the support of Woke warriors with their rainbow flags. I have overcome, what I see as understandable antagonism (even hatred) of some of my hosts by being nice and polite and respectful. And do you know what, it works and the animosity disappears and people say "I don't like the English but you're OK". And that is how to integrate - not by having sanctimonious (I like that word - thanks Howdydoo) but nasty social engineers "helping" by terrorizing the locals.