Quote Originally Posted by i961pie View Post
Ok so Ukraine gives up land, are they then free to join the EU or NATO or does Russia dictate that also.
Ukraine is a sovereign country. I can see resistance movements forming because this is what happens when land is lost. Which would give Putin an excuse to move further into Ukraine.
I don't think Ukraine will ever join NATO. In my opinion, Zelenskyy goading Russia by threatening it in the first place was the whole cause of the current crisis.

EU? Maybe, but that wouldn't bother Russia.

I fully agree with the resistance thing. However, that would be more likely if Ukraine surrendered, which I don't think would ever either. I feel it will be a negotiated ceasefire and then an uneasy peace for a few years.

If it was negotiated, the question would be, who would fund the resistance? There would be many ex-pat Ukrainians who'd send money over, but it's not the same as in the Middle East, where Iran funds anybody and everybody who is anti-US or anti-Israel. If a separate state backed a resistance, it would soon be put down by Russia and the US (if the US were part of the ceasefire agreement).

Interesting times.....