Quote Originally Posted by shaded View Post
i take it you will be happy to hand back all the extra holidays and working conditions to all your previous employers that you have worked for? then get all the bairns back up the chimneys and off to work in the local factory,ffs B! i will give you one thing that in all my experience the way i see it is that alot of higher up reps and management appear very very similar,without all the hard work put in by the proper union guys in the last century and before then the workplace would be a much much darker place
You're comparing the 21st century working conditions with 19th century conditions there. The unions didn't create the technology that could make the workplace better however it was management that provided the investment to utilise it.

You've no idea of my work history but I'll tell you I'm 62, have always worked since leaving school (bar three weeks between leaving the RAF and starting a new job) at 16 and I've worked for three years total in a workplace that had union representation. During that three years conditions on the shop floor worsened due to the insistence on collective bargaining which resulted in less competent workers earning the same as more competent workers, this in turn resulted in less work being done done because the more competent workers refused to carry the less competent ones. I got tae feck out of there at the first opportunity I can tell you.